206: It Happened Again! | Anime Sickos

Folks, uh oh!! Once again we have experienced a mondo catastrophe! Trump won big time! The Sickos discuss their feelings (bad), criticize the Democrats (morons), and reminisce on how the day before the election they were in a fun live show that made them feel really good (sinful, Trump victory is their punishment) The live show we mention, The Skewer, was recorded for your listening and/or viewing pleasure. Find The Skewer Podcast here: https://soundcloud.com/theskewer/the-skewer-returns-november-2024 Watch the video recording here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7me37SaNIs

[00:00:00] Behold, the cold open. Folks, last episode we recorded before the election, we said, I sure hope this doesn't have a weird vibe when it comes out. It did.

[00:00:09] We also did a live show with the caveat, we will do more. To great success, I can't even articulate the wad of cash we got. It was such a good show.

[00:00:18] It was such a good show. Joe, oh my god. Everyone was great, obviously, because I only booked my most trusted friends who I knew were hilarious. But I cannot emphasize enough how on fucking fire Joe was. And I was talking to Medley after, and I'm just like, how is it that Joe does zero comedy for years?

[00:00:43] And then he just goes and does it perfect on his first try. And Medley was just like, this is how he's been his whole life. Like, this is why we worked so hard to get him in our sketch group.

[00:00:56] That's, yeah. I mean, the honest answer is because I'm mumbling stupid shit all the time, which is the practice.

[00:01:02] You just have to basically keep doing that, but turn the volume up.

[00:01:06] Yeah, yeah. You're just like, now just use all of your chests when you say the words and don't look down.

[00:01:13] That show was great because I felt really happy and hopeful so that when the next day occurred, you know I felt like it was my fault.

[00:01:25] And it was, and that's fine. Like, you had too much joy in the Midwest, and the devil got in there and fixed it.

[00:01:34] Yeah, here's the thing about the machine, which Donald Trump is the king of. He rides it in a big chair that they built in the middle of the machine, is that that machine is gonna have blood.

[00:01:45] Are we gonna do the live show again? Really feels unlikely.

[00:01:48] I do get the argument that like, oh, it's important to have a space for kindness and goodness in a dark place.

[00:01:55] But like, man, morale is low.

[00:01:58] I mean, what, because like the bartender who looked like Chris Fleming.

[00:02:02] Yeah.

[00:02:03] He liked us. What if we're like, hey, can we come up with a difference?

[00:02:07] We're the same guys, but it's just gonna be less.

[00:02:12] Erica and Tom will still be Erica and Tom.

[00:02:16] It's just like, there'll be less reason to talk about headlines because we came up with the new format.

[00:02:22] We'll see. We'll see.

[00:02:23] This show we're talking about, if you're not up to speed, it's called The Skewer.

[00:02:28] Erica, Tri-Spock, and I did it for a bunch of years, then stopped because of COVID, and then kept stopping because we were lazy.

[00:02:35] We did a revival show on November 4th.

[00:02:37] You can find it.

[00:02:37] You can look up The Skewer Podcast, November 2024, and you'll hear it.

[00:02:41] It's recorded, and it's great.

[00:02:44] And, fuck.

[00:02:46] Man, okay.

[00:02:48] I sort of made this as a joke, but like, I think it is important in this cold open that we do sort of focus on a very real thing,

[00:02:55] which is that like in a dark time, which we're in, and it's gonna get fucking darker, folks,

[00:03:01] where fascists and evil and cruelty and hatred are winning, they're winning hard.

[00:03:07] It's important to remember in all the despair that like there are still places for goodness and joy and light,

[00:03:17] and you can be your own light in the darkness.

[00:03:20] You need to have these strategies where you can come up with something that allows you to remember that joy and hope still exists in the world,

[00:03:28] so that when you are at your lowest, you have a way to lift yourself up.

[00:03:33] To that end, you're allowed, it's free, to at any time say,

[00:03:41] okay, like Donkey Kong from Donkey Kong 64.

[00:03:44] You gotta do the thumb.

[00:03:47] Yeah, oh yeah.

[00:03:47] You gotta do the thumb.

[00:03:48] There's a body language thing with it.

[00:03:50] I'm more of the Ness okay thing, just to myself, as I take in information.

[00:03:56] That's such an interesting okay, because I think that was made for Smash Brothers.

[00:04:00] They're like, that's what he sounds like, right?

[00:04:01] Okay.

[00:04:02] They're like, I didn't want, yeah, for sure.

[00:04:04] He doesn't talk in Earthbound.

[00:04:07] No, he's very much like a Dragon Quest guy.

[00:04:09] Also, his forward headbutt, as he says okay, is insane.

[00:04:15] No one should do that.

[00:04:20] I love that his eyes are two black dots.

[00:04:25] They're Pac-Man, aren't they?

[00:04:27] I think so.

[00:04:28] Close enough.

[00:04:30] Because the graphics of Earthbound were just like, they have dots for eyes,

[00:04:35] but like, all fucking characters with sprites that small have dots for eyes.

[00:04:39] But like, when he gets upscaled to like an HD AAA.

[00:04:42] He absolutely keeps DeMille house without glasses, and it's awesome.

[00:04:46] Okay.

[00:04:47] Oh, great.

[00:04:48] Lucas does too, yeah.

[00:04:50] So when you're with your friends or family, if you're at work,

[00:04:54] if you're still employed somehow, I don't know how anyone's gonna be,

[00:04:58] someone asks you something, you need to make some sound of affirmation,

[00:05:03] you can sort of give in to the darkness and say okay.

[00:05:08] Or you could go, okay?

[00:05:10] Fight back and be Donkey Kong.

[00:05:12] Okay.

[00:05:13] The ape who is business casual.

[00:05:17] The tie makes him business, of course, but there's no pants on that guy.

[00:05:21] Nudity.

[00:05:21] Fully nude.

[00:05:22] If someone came to the office with a tie and nothing else on,

[00:05:27] people would be screaming.

[00:05:28] That's all people would talk about.

[00:05:58] Everybody, Elk and Anime Sicko's podcast.

[00:06:00] It's the podcast for geniuses and the only podcast where we talk about the

[00:06:03] four pillars of modern misery, anime, gaming, posting, and jobs.

[00:06:07] I am Tom and Anime Sicko.

[00:06:08] I am Joe and Anime Sicko.

[00:06:10] It is a hilarious time to do this, but we gotta do it.

[00:06:16] We have so many patrons and here's why.

[00:06:18] I didn't realize, but something happened on my phone where it lost the password to the Anime Sicko's email.

[00:06:25] So it wasn't getting new emails as they came in.

[00:06:29] Also, we had a backlog of money.

[00:06:31] We sure did.

[00:06:32] And a lot of it is because of our Deadwood game.

[00:06:35] Are you serious?

[00:06:36] Well, at least one.

[00:06:37] Are we businessmen now?

[00:06:39] I think, yes.

[00:06:40] I think that we have to be because, again, no one's gonna be employing fucking American human beings to work on the computer ever again.

[00:06:52] This job's not occurring.

[00:06:54] I'm gonna be pushing boxes.

[00:06:56] I would love to push boxes, honestly.

[00:06:58] How do you get a box job?

[00:06:59] All right.

[00:07:00] We got some patrons.

[00:07:01] We got a New Zealand patron named Rory.

[00:07:04] Thank you, Rory.

[00:07:05] Thank you, Rory.

[00:07:07] New Zealand dollars, right?

[00:07:08] Double dollars?

[00:07:09] Yes.

[00:07:09] They're much better than Australian dollars, which, of course, are in themselves much better than toad bucks.

[00:07:15] So we love New Zealand dollars.

[00:07:17] Oh, my God.

[00:07:17] This is the...

[00:07:18] This is...

[00:07:19] We're also getting Poland dollars, dude.

[00:07:21] We're getting zloty.

[00:07:23] Because of Deadwood?

[00:07:24] They love it that much?

[00:07:25] I can only assume yes.

[00:07:27] It's impossible to say for sure because only one person specifically says that they're doing it because of Deadwood, which we'll get to.

[00:07:33] This is Syl.

[00:07:34] Syl has given us 25 zloty.

[00:07:36] Thank you.

[00:07:37] So, like, imagine the anime sickle as you were as, honestly, Donkey Kong 64.

[00:07:43] And when you press pause, you see all the currencies we get in our various patron dollars.

[00:07:49] And some new ones have showed up.

[00:07:51] Honestly, Poland dollars is, to me, N64 coins.

[00:07:55] We got it from beating the Donkey Kong arcade game twice.

[00:07:59] What a terrible thing to put in your game.

[00:08:03] Okay, we're back to boring old American dollars.

[00:08:06] Honey Bee 155.

[00:08:07] Thank you, Honey Bee.

[00:08:08] Thank you.

[00:08:09] This is a terrible name.

[00:08:11] Watch me use these prehensile nipples to pick up pennies off the floor.

[00:08:19] So, I like that because it's a story.

[00:08:22] I guess so.

[00:08:23] You could say that.

[00:08:24] I'm not going to say that.

[00:08:26] Thank you, though, for your dollars.

[00:08:27] They spend the same despite the terrible name.

[00:08:31] Okay, and here's the one.

[00:08:33] This is the one I was referring to.

[00:08:35] Tom and Joe made me give them money to play their game.

[00:08:38] And now I, Tegan, am anime sickos canon.

[00:08:42] I'm going to live forever.

[00:08:44] Yeah, we're always saying that.

[00:08:45] And there's no follow-up joke part.

[00:08:47] Yeah.

[00:08:48] And nothing bad will ever happen to you.

[00:08:50] Oh, wait, I forgot the election.

[00:08:53] Another $5 guy, Willem.

[00:08:55] Thank you, Willem.

[00:08:56] Thank you, thank you.

[00:08:57] I was unaware that they were the first and second Rat Queen.

[00:09:01] But the third Rat Queen, Zelda, also has patronized us.

[00:09:06] Thank you, Zelda.

[00:09:08] Man, you were sitting on a lot of these.

[00:09:10] Yeah, man.

[00:09:12] When I realized that the fucking password wasn't entered and I re-entered it,

[00:09:17] and it was just like downloading 20 emails.

[00:09:19] I was like, oh, no, whoa.

[00:09:22] And our final new patron is PreviousWinter,

[00:09:25] who I believe is a repeat patron who had to cancel and came back.

[00:09:29] But we like those just as much.

[00:09:31] Thank you, thank you.

[00:09:32] Sorry for having to make you wait.

[00:09:36] But understand, it feels better for us, too, to kind of do them all at once like this,

[00:09:40] just because it's like jackpot.

[00:09:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:09:44] Honestly, I'm looking for anything that makes me feel better these days,

[00:09:47] like saying okay like Donkey Kong.

[00:09:49] It's so funny to do that, dude.

[00:09:51] And the reason being, obviously, the huge catastrophe.

[00:09:56] Do you remember where you were when the catastrophe occurred?

[00:10:00] I do.

[00:10:00] I was at my house.

[00:10:01] It's easier for me to remember that.

[00:10:03] Yeah, it was also on my house.

[00:10:04] I mean, like I knew this was going to happen.

[00:10:05] I like knew this was going to fucking happen.

[00:10:07] I remember telling my therapist like two weeks ago,

[00:10:10] I was like, this is loser.

[00:10:12] I feel loser vibes.

[00:10:13] We are fucked.

[00:10:15] And I think there's two vectors here.

[00:10:17] Yes, there could have been a better campaign.

[00:10:20] Sure.

[00:10:21] Also, like you look at these swings,

[00:10:24] and I just, man, I don't know.

[00:10:26] Like I don't know if there was like some words you could have said.

[00:10:33] Like what should have happened is

[00:10:34] housing should have not been three grand for a studio or whatever.

[00:10:38] Yeah.

[00:10:40] I saw this anecdotally.

[00:10:42] I don't know if this is true yet.

[00:10:43] It was just like Washington State,

[00:10:45] which has basically led the way on like just construction of homes,

[00:10:50] just sort of dense residential building.

[00:10:54] Did not have the same level of bleed and swing that the other places did,

[00:11:00] which is interesting if that's true.

[00:11:02] It's just like, I guess the thing that I'm struggling with,

[00:11:06] people who are correctly understanding that this is bad.

[00:11:08] There are still two camps, which is like,

[00:11:10] this is going to be bad baseline to the last time.

[00:11:13] And this is going to be a different thing.

[00:11:15] And I'm kind of in the latter category.

[00:11:19] But I would happy to be wrong and say it's only like the last.

[00:11:25] But I just don't get that sense based on the lack of sort of guardrails.

[00:11:32] And there was all that puttering at the start of the last time where they were like,

[00:11:34] is he like a regular guy?

[00:11:36] Let's figure it out.

[00:11:39] I mean, the newspapers will still run like,

[00:11:43] oh yeah, he's unified the country stuff.

[00:11:45] But like, I don't, I don't, I don't,

[00:11:48] I do not think there will be,

[00:11:52] a better way to put it is I think the only barriers are just like his own interest.

[00:11:56] Yeah.

[00:11:56] Honestly, I mean, that's not nothing.

[00:12:00] He is very old and very lazy and very stupid and very selfish.

[00:12:07] And it's sad that that's sort of like the thing I'm holding out hope for is that like,

[00:12:13] maybe he'll fucking,

[00:12:15] maybe he won't want to do the work of enacting the evil.

[00:12:18] But that is a very flimsy fucking guardrail.

[00:12:22] So, and to your earlier point,

[00:12:26] like you just like,

[00:12:27] is there,

[00:12:27] are there words that anyone could have said that would have averted the big catastrophe?

[00:12:33] Like, is there,

[00:12:34] was there a winning campaign?

[00:12:35] And like,

[00:12:36] I have to say yes,

[00:12:39] because it's like,

[00:12:40] it's like saying like,

[00:12:41] was the reason Kamala lost because of sexism?

[00:12:44] It's like,

[00:12:44] well,

[00:12:44] it certainly didn't help.

[00:12:45] But if you say yes,

[00:12:47] what the conclusion you have to come to is,

[00:12:50] therefore no one can ever run a woman.

[00:12:52] Which like,

[00:12:53] that's,

[00:12:53] that's sexist in itself.

[00:12:56] Like it requires you to make.

[00:12:57] That will be the takeaway.

[00:12:58] Oh yeah.

[00:12:58] Like the consultant type.

[00:12:59] Like,

[00:13:00] absolutely.

[00:13:00] Like,

[00:13:01] it's,

[00:13:02] it will be the message.

[00:13:03] Every single Democratic Party person on CNN has said the same thing,

[00:13:08] which is,

[00:13:08] this election just shows that that transgender stuff is just too crazy.

[00:13:13] Honestly,

[00:13:14] I always thought it was crazy.

[00:13:15] I've been,

[00:13:15] so I've been scared to say this and that because I'm afraid I'd get canceled.

[00:13:20] You get canceled for anything these days.

[00:13:21] And you're just like,

[00:13:23] oh my God,

[00:13:23] I hope these people fucking kill themselves.

[00:13:25] Anyway,

[00:13:26] but,

[00:13:26] but the reason that it wouldn't fucking happen is as you sort of imply,

[00:13:31] like the,

[00:13:32] the thing people want is for life to not fucking suck so bad and be so hard.

[00:13:39] And the only way that that can happen is if something like is different and it's like,

[00:13:44] it's really different.

[00:13:46] Yeah.

[00:13:46] So if every election from,

[00:13:48] well,

[00:13:48] that was the last one,

[00:13:49] but if there were more,

[00:13:51] uh,

[00:13:52] it's just like,

[00:13:53] do things suck?

[00:13:54] They do.

[00:13:54] Cause they're going to suck forever.

[00:13:55] Uh,

[00:13:56] so we're going to vote the other guy for the change thing.

[00:13:58] And then it's just,

[00:14:00] it would,

[00:14:00] in a normal sort of like environment,

[00:14:03] that would be the back and forth.

[00:14:04] But like,

[00:14:04] I,

[00:14:04] I do not.

[00:14:06] People who talk about 2028 with like certainty.

[00:14:11] It just feels like a little adult sense of believer.

[00:14:16] Yeah.

[00:14:16] I mean,

[00:14:16] cause well,

[00:14:17] here's how it is.

[00:14:18] Say we get four,

[00:14:19] the four years occur and it is a massive failure.

[00:14:22] And Trump really fucks it.

[00:14:25] And everyone acknowledges that things get way worse.

[00:14:28] And then the Democrats run another fucking Joe Biden,

[00:14:32] Kamala campaign.

[00:14:33] They're still going to lose because it,

[00:14:35] what will they be?

[00:14:36] Why was Hillary there twice?

[00:14:37] Like the fact that she was like,

[00:14:37] I'm helping out.

[00:14:38] It was so fucking funny.

[00:14:42] Uh,

[00:14:43] it's just like,

[00:14:45] uh,

[00:14:45] it's just,

[00:14:47] I like the old,

[00:14:48] okay.

[00:14:48] So only times in my life that a democratic politician has run on a

[00:14:52] campaign of like,

[00:14:53] Hey,

[00:14:54] I will make big changes that will structurally improve everything.

[00:15:00] The only two times that has ever happened is Barack Obama who won big

[00:15:03] time.

[00:15:04] And great effect.

[00:15:05] Did he,

[00:15:05] but he was a lying guy and it was not true.

[00:15:09] Um,

[00:15:09] so the change never fucking occurred.

[00:15:11] And then Bernie Sanders who did mean it,

[00:15:14] but he got rat fucked fucking hard.

[00:15:17] And the heart attack gun.

[00:15:18] Let's not forget the heart attack.

[00:15:19] That heart attack gun.

[00:15:20] Yes.

[00:15:21] He got hit with the heart attack gun.

[00:15:22] I'm so fucking as much as perfect position to be,

[00:15:25] uh,

[00:15:26] in terms of just catching votes is,

[00:15:29] uh,

[00:15:30] yeah,

[00:15:30] things sure do suck.

[00:15:31] I would like to change that.

[00:15:32] Uh,

[00:15:33] in parentheses,

[00:15:34] I'm not really going to get to that.

[00:15:36] Uh,

[00:15:36] uh,

[00:15:37] cause then you just,

[00:15:38] you get the momentum of the change candidate,

[00:15:40] but then you get to just hang out.

[00:15:42] And somehow eventually this does catch up with you because I mean,

[00:15:46] if you are,

[00:15:47] uh,

[00:15:47] you,

[00:15:48] if the fucking entire apparatus of the country's,

[00:15:51] uh,

[00:15:53] higher leadership is just stuck in like,

[00:15:56] I'm not actually going to do anything because I don't want to.

[00:15:59] It's hard.

[00:15:59] Well,

[00:16:00] that's how you get no new construction.

[00:16:02] That's how you get.

[00:16:03] So that like the idea of building high speed rail or even just more fucking CTA lines is so laughable to like the,

[00:16:12] like the,

[00:16:13] like I tried to,

[00:16:14] I tried Joe to imagine a world where a new color of CTA line gets built in my lifetime.

[00:16:20] And like,

[00:16:21] I can't even,

[00:16:22] I can't even imagine.

[00:16:24] but that's because the blue line used to be three lines and they converted one of them to pink.

[00:16:28] So on that,

[00:16:29] in terms of new construction,

[00:16:31] no,

[00:16:31] but I,

[00:16:32] I,

[00:16:33] I don't want to be too optimistic here,

[00:16:36] but a recoloring could happen in our lifetime.

[00:16:38] Yeah.

[00:16:38] No,

[00:16:39] fuck that.

[00:16:39] I'm not talking about recoloring.

[00:16:40] I'm talking about like,

[00:16:41] cause that's,

[00:16:42] I mean,

[00:16:43] new construction as a metaphor for like structural change.

[00:16:47] Obviously you can have new construction,

[00:16:48] even under an evil regime.

[00:16:50] We won't,

[00:16:51] uh,

[00:16:52] because they build prisons,

[00:16:54] dude.

[00:16:55] But like,

[00:16:56] uh,

[00:16:56] you get what I mean?

[00:16:57] Like it's so fucking like,

[00:16:59] again,

[00:16:59] this shouldn't be easy for like,

[00:17:02] we should have no insights.

[00:17:04] That was,

[00:17:04] that was another takeaway.

[00:17:05] That's a very frustrating thing.

[00:17:07] Yes.

[00:17:07] It's just like,

[00:17:09] this should be so far above us.

[00:17:11] I hate that.

[00:17:12] I have a lock on this.

[00:17:13] It really sucks.

[00:17:15] Uh,

[00:17:15] I shouldn't.

[00:17:16] There's a lot of reasons that keep me from understanding.

[00:17:18] Certain things.

[00:17:19] So why this one broke through,

[00:17:20] I don't know.

[00:17:21] Yeah.

[00:17:22] And like,

[00:17:22] if the fact that someone of my intellectual caliber with my exposure to the facts,

[00:17:28] uh,

[00:17:29] limited as my exposure has been,

[00:17:31] as I'm able to like fucking hit upon it.

[00:17:34] Exactly.

[00:17:34] Which is like,

[00:17:35] Oh,

[00:17:35] there's,

[00:17:36] uh,

[00:17:36] the Democrats offer no substantive plan for change because to offer a substantive plan for

[00:17:41] change would mean they had to actually enact policies that sometimes do not go with the wishes of their donors.

[00:17:47] Therefore,

[00:17:48] they have to offer this vision of a sort of status quo,

[00:17:53] but that doesn't really work when people don't like the status quo.

[00:17:57] And then I bet that when they're done and lose,

[00:18:00] they'll say,

[00:18:01] our vision of the status quo was not racist enough.

[00:18:05] Obviously people love racism.

[00:18:06] So we were offering them a,

[00:18:09] uh,

[00:18:09] product they didn't want.

[00:18:10] And they don't understand that the reason the product was not wanted is because the product is one where a studio apartment is $3,000.

[00:18:17] Uh,

[00:18:19] uh,

[00:18:19] why do I know that?

[00:18:20] Like,

[00:18:20] how come I know that?

[00:18:21] When your rent is really high,

[00:18:25] uh,

[00:18:25] this,

[00:18:26] now this is something I learned in grad school.

[00:18:28] This is a very advanced theory.

[00:18:29] Uh,

[00:18:29] your life sucks.

[00:18:31] It fucking blows.

[00:18:33] Uh,

[00:18:33] and,

[00:18:34] and,

[00:18:34] you like,

[00:18:36] how do I put this?

[00:18:37] The switch to her,

[00:18:38] to Kamala,

[00:18:39] I think was still correct because he couldn't talk.

[00:18:42] Yes.

[00:18:42] Maybe,

[00:18:43] but,

[00:18:43] but nonetheless,

[00:18:44] we are talking about like,

[00:18:46] okay,

[00:18:46] so you have someone who's like not the actual incumbent with the incumbent baggage of the high inflationary,

[00:18:52] uh,

[00:18:54] period with all the crazy rents and everything as well.

[00:18:56] That seems like the worst of both worlds.

[00:18:59] Yeah.

[00:19:00] Uh,

[00:19:01] but the other thing is like,

[00:19:02] maybe the move is not to campaign.

[00:19:06] I'm serious because like,

[00:19:08] the more you can have,

[00:19:10] you're just,

[00:19:11] uh,

[00:19:11] like media apparatus,

[00:19:13] fill in the blanks and you just don't do stuff.

[00:19:15] It seems like that's better dude for,

[00:19:17] in terms of outcome.

[00:19:18] I'm about to confess.

[00:19:20] Uh,

[00:19:21] it's not that big,

[00:19:22] big a deal,

[00:19:23] but I think it's kind of funny because I hadn't really realized I was doing it or spoken to anyone about it.

[00:19:29] Um,

[00:19:30] I never,

[00:19:31] since Kamala became the nominee until her catastrophic failure,

[00:19:37] uh,

[00:19:38] where she lost in a landslide,

[00:19:39] an election that was called on election night.

[00:19:41] In a,

[00:19:42] in a election that was,

[00:19:43] uh,

[00:19:43] everyone was like,

[00:19:44] get ready for a long.

[00:19:46] Yes.

[00:19:46] It's like now,

[00:19:47] like,

[00:19:48] here's why it takes a long time to get results.

[00:19:50] Okay.

[00:19:51] Remember,

[00:19:51] you didn't know about 2020 until Thursday.

[00:19:54] And since she was made the nominee,

[00:19:57] I never listened to her.

[00:19:59] I had not heard her voice.

[00:20:01] I did not watch a single frame of video of her because I'm just like,

[00:20:05] well,

[00:20:05] I'm already voting for the not Trump person because of,

[00:20:10] uh,

[00:20:10] that's,

[00:20:11] I'm fucking handcuffed.

[00:20:12] Like I'm in hell.

[00:20:13] And that is simply what I have to do no matter how much I don't want to.

[00:20:17] So I have to vote for her.

[00:20:19] So like,

[00:20:19] what benefit would I get from watching her speeches?

[00:20:23] Because I know that the only thing that's going to happen is she's going to say some shit.

[00:20:27] Like I love Israel.

[00:20:29] Biological males shouldn't play women's sports.

[00:20:31] It is insane how every fucking person is so laser focused.

[00:20:37] I'm like,

[00:20:37] no one who likes Sonic too much can play a sport ever.

[00:20:41] They have absolutely like,

[00:20:43] uh,

[00:20:44] overnight.

[00:20:45] It's just like the,

[00:20:46] the idea that like,

[00:20:48] of course,

[00:20:48] like we were so ridiculous.

[00:20:49] We were embarrassed.

[00:20:51] We're so wrong.

[00:20:52] We never should have,

[00:20:53] uh,

[00:20:54] implied that there's any human alive who does not want to mush these people's brains up in a barrel,

[00:20:59] like how they used to make wine.

[00:21:01] Um,

[00:21:01] the other really grim thing is that previous elections,

[00:21:05] like all the anti-trans messaging was a non-starter.

[00:21:08] And I don't even necessarily think it was effective here,

[00:21:10] but it was part of the shotgun blast.

[00:21:13] Yeah.

[00:21:13] So that is now going to be justification to be like,

[00:21:16] Oh,

[00:21:17] like that was done.

[00:21:18] They,

[00:21:18] everybody,

[00:21:18] this is what's hot right now.

[00:21:20] And I realize when I say hot right now,

[00:21:21] I'm talking about people's lives and dignity,

[00:21:23] but like,

[00:21:23] this is how the people that like fucking make these decisions,

[00:21:27] see these things.

[00:21:28] It's so awful.

[00:21:29] It's so awful.

[00:21:30] You know,

[00:21:30] here's another thing that fucking blows my total ass.

[00:21:34] And you,

[00:21:35] you mentioned this about the shifts,

[00:21:37] uh,

[00:21:38] the big shift that everyone's pointing at and going,

[00:21:41] Oh no,

[00:21:42] is a Gen Z men who are the Hitler youth.

[00:21:47] I'm not surprised just because like,

[00:21:49] this is happening like literally everywhere.

[00:21:51] In the South Korean election,

[00:21:53] the God,

[00:21:54] the current president of South Korea's main platform was essentially like,

[00:21:58] bitches.

[00:21:59] Right.

[00:21:59] And I'm not kidding.

[00:22:00] Like I,

[00:22:00] and like there was,

[00:22:02] uh,

[00:22:02] just a total anti-feminist backlash,

[00:22:06] uh,

[00:22:06] which is also like effectively reshaped society because like women are like afraid to even say that they have feminist beliefs or whatever.

[00:22:14] It just,

[00:22:15] it's,

[00:22:15] it's awful.

[00:22:16] And I,

[00:22:17] and when that happened,

[00:22:18] and I also think about just how like,

[00:22:21] I want to say like,

[00:22:23] it's still phones is like,

[00:22:24] obviously it's a dumb thing to say,

[00:22:26] but like you should not be beaming any,

[00:22:29] even if it was content of like a dog playing,

[00:22:32] you shouldn't be beaming three hours of that in your head,

[00:22:35] let alone when it's,

[00:22:36] uh,

[00:22:37] obviously agitating you.

[00:22:38] Uh,

[00:22:39] like what we have right now is like a more extreme version of,

[00:22:43] uh,

[00:22:44] when like AM talk radio really started radicalizing people because like people were stuck in their cars for hours and hours and hours and hours.

[00:22:50] And you have Rush Limbaugh just being like,

[00:22:52] here's the people I hate.

[00:22:53] You hate them too.

[00:22:54] And then like people get activated like that.

[00:22:56] And now it's just like people have that in their pocket and like different flavors at all times.

[00:23:02] And it's,

[00:23:02] it's encouraged to participate.

[00:23:04] There is no,

[00:23:04] especially for younger people,

[00:23:06] there is no sort of like idea of legitimate traditional media.

[00:23:10] Like there's no people,

[00:23:11] they,

[00:23:12] they would,

[00:23:12] a zoomer would never turn on the TV.

[00:23:15] The TV is like,

[00:23:16] is that a monitor for a computer?

[00:23:18] It used to be that Rush Limbaugh was like,

[00:23:20] if you were a crank who was just sitting at home in front of the radio all day or a trucker,

[00:23:26] you would listen to Rush Limbaugh.

[00:23:27] If you're like a kid,

[00:23:28] you would never.

[00:23:30] Now,

[00:23:30] like instead of watching Nick Jr.

[00:23:33] It snuck in between your fucking videos.

[00:23:34] Yes.

[00:23:35] Okay.

[00:23:35] Like it's,

[00:23:36] there's just like this clear pipeline and we're not the first people to notice this.

[00:23:40] Yes,

[00:23:40] we are.

[00:23:48] There are literally financial incentives in the form of advertising to push the stuff because it's also addictive.

[00:23:54] Fucking,

[00:23:55] they thanked Aiden Ross,

[00:23:57] the fucking like Nazi child who does hate content for preteens by name.

[00:24:05] And it's just like,

[00:24:06] oh,

[00:24:06] yeah.

[00:24:07] So like this is,

[00:24:07] this is it now.

[00:24:10] And so I,

[00:24:13] when it was clear that like evil money move was just to back influencers and just like do that.

[00:24:21] I was like,

[00:24:22] I don't know.

[00:24:23] That doesn't,

[00:24:23] is that,

[00:24:23] is that going to be a good ROI?

[00:24:25] I was so wrong,

[00:24:25] dude.

[00:24:27] It's like the best ROI because as you said,

[00:24:30] like there is no other alternative media.

[00:24:32] And here's the other thing I want to stress that's going to drive me nuts in this conversation we're having about like,

[00:24:39] yes,

[00:24:39] it's all just beating crap into your brain.

[00:24:42] People who are like almost there getting it are going to be like,

[00:24:46] yes,

[00:24:47] they will need more legacy media as if that's not fucked.

[00:24:50] Yeah.

[00:24:52] And people are like,

[00:24:53] we need a sort of lefty alternative.

[00:24:56] It's too late.

[00:24:58] Sorry.

[00:24:59] Like when's the best time to plant a tree?

[00:25:01] 10 fucking years ago.

[00:25:03] Also the entire fucking thing about the grassroots sort of propaganda network of podcasters and such is that it's just a fucking volume game.

[00:25:16] It's just numbers.

[00:25:18] You just need to absolutely drown people with this so that like a rube who could go either way is going to just inevitably get caught up in the tide.

[00:25:26] And without realizing he's being swept over here to get swept over there.

[00:25:30] And the way that you do that is massive,

[00:25:32] massive funding where the ROI that you're expecting to get is not a dollar amount or at least not a dollar amount from that specific investment,

[00:25:41] but a dollar amount based on you will change society such that your rich,

[00:25:45] your rich person's interests are forefronted.

[00:25:49] And also if you hit a critical mass,

[00:25:51] it will become like financially stable.

[00:25:54] But they fund these things because the goal is not to make money.

[00:25:58] This is why there will never be a equal like blue propaganda podcast ecosystem.

[00:26:04] It's because the thing that the fucking rich donors who are able to make it happen want is for evil to thrive so that they can make more money.

[00:26:13] And if there is someone with the money to fund such a thing for the left.

[00:26:16] They're like a third way Clinton person.

[00:26:18] Yes, yes.

[00:26:19] Because they realize correctly that like to actually fund this means that I won't make an,

[00:26:27] I won't make a return on the investment in the short term because the pod,

[00:26:31] no podcast don't make money.

[00:26:33] So that's not going to work.

[00:26:34] And also if the ideological message does like take root,

[00:26:40] that means that there will have to be things put in place that tax me more and make it less conducive for billionaires to accrue great wealth,

[00:26:52] which I don't want that either.

[00:26:54] So why the fuck would I do it?

[00:26:57] That's why they don't do it.

[00:26:58] That and these like George Soros honestly is the most like bitch ass,

[00:27:03] like fucking terrible.

[00:27:04] People,

[00:27:05] he's so bad at being George Soros.

[00:27:07] If he's the,

[00:27:08] if he's,

[00:27:08] if he has that level of propaganda network,

[00:27:11] we should be on planet gay.

[00:27:13] Uh,

[00:27:14] but no,

[00:27:14] he,

[00:27:15] uh,

[00:27:15] he,

[00:27:16] also,

[00:27:19] like,

[00:27:19] why isn't there a left wing media enterprise that,

[00:27:22] uh,

[00:27:23] pushes left wing ideals in an interesting way that,

[00:27:26] that young people like that,

[00:27:28] uh,

[00:27:28] focuses on masculinity.

[00:27:30] Uh,

[00:27:31] there is motherfucker.

[00:27:32] It's Santa be sickos podcast skill issue for not listening to it.

[00:27:36] We've been doing this all along.

[00:27:38] Yeah,

[00:27:39] I do not.

[00:27:39] Uh,

[00:27:40] just like,

[00:27:41] it's really hard off for the fellows,

[00:27:42] I just don't relate.

[00:27:43] Sorry.

[00:27:44] I'm fucking on that front.

[00:27:46] I rule.

[00:27:47] Like I have never,

[00:27:49] uh,

[00:27:49] had issues.

[00:27:50] My life is S rank.

[00:27:51] Yeah.

[00:27:51] In that regard.

[00:27:52] Uh,

[00:27:53] people like we know this,

[00:27:54] we,

[00:27:54] Tom and I went to a coffee tasting as we talked about,

[00:27:59] uh,

[00:27:59] people immediately like me and like,

[00:28:01] it's just,

[00:28:02] I got the,

[00:28:02] the Joe stick.

[00:28:03] It's the Joe show.

[00:28:04] I get it.

[00:28:05] We had like a little group form around us.

[00:28:08] Yeah.

[00:28:09] Sorry.

[00:28:09] Uh,

[00:28:10] you didn't get hugged enough or maybe hug too much.

[00:28:13] I don't know how it works.

[00:28:14] Uh,

[00:28:14] or get it.

[00:28:15] You got the appropriate amount of hugs,

[00:28:16] but you could tell that they were fake,

[00:28:18] that they didn't have the juice.

[00:28:20] Uh,

[00:28:20] but like when people talk about,

[00:28:23] the other thing is it's,

[00:28:24] it's a bunch of,

[00:28:25] the thing I can't like decouple as far as an image goes is it's like,

[00:28:29] imagine a bunch of guys just being like,

[00:28:31] I am isolated.

[00:28:32] This sucks.

[00:28:33] It's like,

[00:28:33] look,

[00:28:33] didn't they make out with each other?

[00:28:35] Like what the fuck?

[00:28:37] Like they're all saying it.

[00:28:39] So like,

[00:28:39] I have a,

[00:28:40] would you hang out?

[00:28:41] Like,

[00:28:41] do you know about Mario cart?

[00:28:42] If every fucking time I see someone be like,

[00:28:46] the real problem is male loneliness.

[00:28:49] You see,

[00:28:49] because masculinity,

[00:28:51] it like forces these men to be lonely and not express their emotions.

[00:28:55] It's like skill issue.

[00:28:57] I have no trouble with this.

[00:28:58] I talk about my emotions all the time.

[00:29:00] I complain about things.

[00:29:01] I say that things kick ass.

[00:29:02] I talk about when I feel sad.

[00:29:04] I talk about when I feel happy,

[00:29:05] loneliness.

[00:29:06] Uh,

[00:29:06] I simply,

[00:29:07] when I'm feeling lonely,

[00:29:08] I hang out with the boys.

[00:29:10] Like,

[00:29:10] like what?

[00:29:11] I don't see why,

[00:29:13] where the,

[00:29:13] the difficulty is supposed to come up.

[00:29:15] The dip,

[00:29:15] if there,

[00:29:16] if ever difficulty does come up,

[00:29:18] it's because like everyone's tired and busy,

[00:29:21] which surprise,

[00:29:23] it's keeping me from hanging out with the boys.

[00:29:24] That is not gender specific.

[00:29:27] Also the whole like,

[00:29:28] the reason this is happening is the white men are demonized.

[00:29:31] What do you expect?

[00:29:32] What do you expect white men to do when you demonize them for,

[00:29:35] for 10 years?

[00:29:36] That is the most hilarious shit on earth.

[00:29:38] That never fucking happened.

[00:29:41] If life is making up a guy and getting angry at them,

[00:29:44] uh,

[00:29:45] what happens when everybody collectively votes as a block about a made up guy?

[00:29:49] Like we're fucked.

[00:29:50] You understand?

[00:29:50] Yes.

[00:29:51] Yes.

[00:29:51] Cause like,

[00:29:52] you can't refute the made up guy because there's no,

[00:29:55] like it's made up.

[00:29:56] We all saw the Chupacabra.

[00:29:58] Like we,

[00:29:59] we were all there.

[00:30:02] And,

[00:30:02] and,

[00:30:03] and to be clear,

[00:30:05] very clear,

[00:30:05] the like insane,

[00:30:08] isolating and radicalizing loneliness is like bad.

[00:30:12] It is.

[00:30:12] It sucks.

[00:30:13] But like,

[00:30:13] it's not like,

[00:30:14] it's not like a magic thing that like it,

[00:30:17] what am I trying to say?

[00:30:18] There's agency.

[00:30:19] Yes.

[00:30:20] On their part a little,

[00:30:21] like the framing seems to be like someone has not put the right clubs in front of these

[00:30:25] boys.

[00:30:25] And it's like,

[00:30:26] what the fuck are you talking about?

[00:30:27] No one,

[00:30:28] no one does that about anything else ever.

[00:30:30] Everyone else is excited to point out that you did it wrong.

[00:30:33] You fucked up.

[00:30:34] Like you don't got the goods,

[00:30:35] but,

[00:30:36] but this is,

[00:30:37] uh,

[00:30:37] why isn't there an elk club for the little guys?

[00:30:40] Yes.

[00:30:40] I mean,

[00:30:41] like if we do list,

[00:30:42] like what are the structural things that do cause loneliness that are not,

[00:30:47] you know,

[00:30:47] the based on the person's agency and no one has enough money.

[00:30:50] Uh,

[00:30:50] everyone's in a car all the time and everyone has to work a lot of the time to,

[00:30:55] uh,

[00:30:56] make money.

[00:30:57] Everyone is either gambling or just having to see it.

[00:31:00] Yeah.

[00:31:00] All the time.

[00:31:01] So what would make that better?

[00:31:03] Uh,

[00:31:04] if there was a social welfare safety net,

[00:31:07] if there was a stronger public transit system across the country and,

[00:31:12] uh,

[00:31:12] if there was more housing,

[00:31:14] well,

[00:31:15] no,

[00:31:15] but nobody wants to do that.

[00:31:20] The Democrats do not want to do that.

[00:31:22] They will never do that.

[00:31:24] Uh,

[00:31:24] so that's not fucking happening.

[00:31:26] It's see,

[00:31:27] honestly,

[00:31:28] just the other day I was feeling lonely and you know what I did show?

[00:31:30] I fucking text my,

[00:31:32] I texted my boy Damien and I go,

[00:31:34] hang out next weekend.

[00:31:35] Yeah.

[00:31:36] Like you didn't need like a new policy,

[00:31:39] like presented to you.

[00:31:41] Honestly,

[00:31:41] every,

[00:31:41] again,

[00:31:42] every time I hear about the male loneliness thing,

[00:31:44] it's like,

[00:31:44] this is a real thing.

[00:31:45] You can't dismiss it.

[00:31:46] I'm like,

[00:31:46] Oh,

[00:31:47] then I guess that I have just been living with weighted clothes my whole life.

[00:31:50] And yet I still learned all of my ultimate techniques.

[00:31:53] I'm like,

[00:31:54] sorry folks.

[00:31:55] Yeah.

[00:31:55] I,

[00:31:55] yeah,

[00:31:56] I just,

[00:31:56] I felt lonely,

[00:31:57] not for how to put this lonely in a crowd type thing for other mood reasons.

[00:32:01] So it's like,

[00:32:02] I don't,

[00:32:02] I don't relate for this particular kind of despair,

[00:32:06] which is funny because there's a lot of it.

[00:32:09] But I just have a gap in this regard,

[00:32:11] you know,

[00:32:11] cause I'm a lovely guy.

[00:32:13] Yeah.

[00:32:15] And also another,

[00:32:16] that's another thing.

[00:32:17] That's why the anime sickos podcast is this thing that everyone talks about.

[00:32:21] Why,

[00:32:22] why isn't this thing exist?

[00:32:23] We do.

[00:32:24] It's,

[00:32:24] it's honestly,

[00:32:25] it's everyone.

[00:32:26] We didn't fail you.

[00:32:27] You failed us.

[00:32:28] Not you.

[00:32:29] Listen,

[00:32:29] you're the success.

[00:32:30] The people who aren't listening,

[00:32:32] who should have been failed us.

[00:32:33] Why did the pod fail America guys who failed America with their pod?

[00:32:39] Why would anyone listen to them?

[00:32:41] They should have been listening to us.

[00:32:42] We're much better in every way.

[00:32:44] Can I say something election related?

[00:32:46] Uh,

[00:32:46] that's not on that same sort of vein,

[00:32:49] but really blue sky is broken in officially.

[00:32:51] We did it folks.

[00:32:52] Yeah.

[00:32:53] I,

[00:32:53] it's a platform that's real now.

[00:32:54] If you see a,

[00:32:55] a future changing election play out on it,

[00:33:00] it's real.

[00:33:01] Like it has been broken in officially.

[00:33:04] Yeah.

[00:33:04] Also when I sit down to do my,

[00:33:06] my like social media checks,

[00:33:08] because I don't have them on my phone.

[00:33:11] I have to do it on the computer just to make it.

[00:33:13] So I don't constantly scroll.

[00:33:16] So I go on blue sky.

[00:33:17] I look at it and then I go on Twitter and look at that.

[00:33:20] And man,

[00:33:21] just like the absolute stomach churning,

[00:33:25] nausea dread.

[00:33:26] I get from turning Twitter on is getting worse and worse.

[00:33:30] And I really,

[00:33:31] I,

[00:33:31] you know what it really is,

[00:33:32] Joe?

[00:33:32] It's not as though the actual content has changed in any way,

[00:33:36] but the fact that everything Elon did to Twitter has,

[00:33:42] again,

[00:33:42] evil wins,

[00:33:44] uh,

[00:33:44] hatred and stupidity vindicated again.

[00:33:47] Uh,

[00:33:48] like he absolutely pulled off and a,

[00:33:53] a completely successful gambit.

[00:33:56] Uh,

[00:33:57] it worked.

[00:33:58] There's no doubt.

[00:33:59] Lawlessly.

[00:34:00] He's going to be running the federal government effectively.

[00:34:02] And,

[00:34:03] uh,

[00:34:04] what did it cost him just to run a social media site at a weird loss for a

[00:34:09] while?

[00:34:09] But that is nothing in comparison to a fucking basically regulatory power.

[00:34:15] Yep.

[00:34:17] Uh,

[00:34:17] assuming of course they let him do that.

[00:34:19] I don't see why they wouldn't.

[00:34:20] Uh,

[00:34:20] like he,

[00:34:22] I'm sure he delivered the goods,

[00:34:23] right?

[00:34:24] Again,

[00:34:24] this is the,

[00:34:25] it's one of those things where it's like,

[00:34:26] it's so embarrassing to have to use this as the thing your brain clings onto

[00:34:34] for hope.

[00:34:35] I can only hope that Elon Musk is too personally off putting to Donald Trump for

[00:34:43] him to actually like fulfill his promises to him.

[00:34:47] I have to assume that when the time comes to like,

[00:34:50] you know,

[00:34:51] are we going to appoint Elon to the fucking fake physician we invented for him?

[00:34:57] And Donald Trump will think about all the times that he jumped and be like,

[00:35:02] no,

[00:35:02] that guy's like,

[00:35:03] I think that guy's like gay or something.

[00:35:05] And that again,

[00:35:07] like,

[00:35:07] this is not,

[00:35:08] I hate that this is like,

[00:35:09] like I sure hope,

[00:35:11] uh,

[00:35:11] this happened in the first term where like watching him turn on like the other

[00:35:14] ghouls was like,

[00:35:15] Oh sweet.

[00:35:16] Like,

[00:35:16] it's just like,

[00:35:16] all right,

[00:35:17] cool.

[00:35:17] Like I don't,

[00:35:19] the big picture doesn't feel good,

[00:35:21] but like,

[00:35:21] Hey,

[00:35:22] at least this is happening.

[00:35:23] You know what I really hate?

[00:35:25] And I was talking about this with my mom and it's just like,

[00:35:29] Oh God,

[00:35:30] I can't believe that I'm here,

[00:35:32] which is like,

[00:35:33] I hope he survives the entire term because,

[00:35:38] and I,

[00:35:39] this is a man whose death I've wished every day for years.

[00:35:42] I hope he survives the whole term because if he dies,

[00:35:47] president fucking JD Vance is a,

[00:35:50] is like,

[00:35:50] again,

[00:35:51] my sort of buggy,

[00:35:53] the clowns.

[00:35:54] We got lots of buggy,

[00:35:55] the clowns.

[00:35:56] My,

[00:35:57] my fucking flimsy little guardrail of hope of like,

[00:36:00] maybe he's too lazy and stupid.

[00:36:02] Uh,

[00:36:03] to actually follow through with all,

[00:36:06] with all,

[00:36:06] I mean,

[00:36:07] he's going to follow through with a lot of the evil,

[00:36:08] but all the evil he might not do.

[00:36:10] But vice president evil,

[00:36:12] Lisa Simpson will definitely do the homework.

[00:36:15] Yeah.

[00:36:15] Uh,

[00:36:16] he's a true believer.

[00:36:18] See that like Donald Trump is a true believer in evil,

[00:36:20] but he's more of a true believer in like,

[00:36:23] I want to sit down and eat a burger.

[00:36:25] Uh,

[00:36:26] like I,

[00:36:27] I want me to have fucking creature pleasures right now.

[00:36:31] That's his real animated impulse.

[00:36:34] JD Vance does not look like he has ever been comfortable or wanted to.

[00:36:38] And so like the,

[00:36:39] his only animated impulses,

[00:36:40] I would like to enact evil on a grand scale.

[00:36:44] Oh,

[00:36:45] hate that.

[00:36:45] Hate that.

[00:36:46] And that guy is a,

[00:36:47] I mean,

[00:36:47] he's an avatar of Peter Thiel money.

[00:36:50] Like he just objectively is.

[00:36:52] So think about this even outside of just JD,

[00:36:54] just like who is the president actually,

[00:36:58] if he's the president.

[00:36:59] God damn.

[00:37:01] Fucking crazy.

[00:37:02] And like,

[00:37:03] I mean,

[00:37:03] this is the whole fucking Bezos with the Washington post and Elon being his

[00:37:08] like little dick sharpener.

[00:37:09] Uh,

[00:37:11] he's like,

[00:37:11] so clearly it's like,

[00:37:13] I'm for sale folks.

[00:37:14] Uh,

[00:37:14] I'll do whatever you want.

[00:37:16] I'm the toe.

[00:37:16] I'm a cypher.

[00:37:18] Uh,

[00:37:18] that's okay.

[00:37:19] I,

[00:37:19] I sure hope that that's my other like guardrail of hope where again,

[00:37:23] it's like,

[00:37:24] it's just so embarrassing that this is what I have to hold on to.

[00:37:26] Is that like,

[00:37:27] maybe he won't do the tariff shit because the rich billionaire people will be

[00:37:32] like,

[00:37:33] that'll be bad for business.

[00:37:34] Donald don't do it.

[00:37:36] And here's,

[00:37:37] you know,

[00:37:37] here's a hundred thousand dollars to listen to me.

[00:37:40] Uh,

[00:37:41] maybe,

[00:37:42] I don't know.

[00:37:43] Probably not.

[00:37:44] See,

[00:37:45] he doesn't have to do all of it.

[00:37:47] Like he was talking about removing income taxes and replacing that,

[00:37:51] uh,

[00:37:52] with,

[00:37:53] with tariffs,

[00:37:53] which obviously that does not math out.

[00:37:56] Um,

[00:37:57] the other thing is he doesn't even have to like implement it.

[00:38:00] He just has to fuck some stuff up.

[00:38:02] Yeah.

[00:38:02] Cause like once you,

[00:38:04] once you're going to introduce complications in a trade like that,

[00:38:07] there's just like so much chaos longterm.

[00:38:11] We are staring at,

[00:38:12] I'll say this about chaos.

[00:38:14] I don't like it.

[00:38:16] No,

[00:38:17] only an emerald form.

[00:38:19] Really?

[00:38:19] Mm.

[00:38:20] You know,

[00:38:20] what sucks is Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

[00:38:24] So Barack Obama really chunked it.

[00:38:27] If you think about some just specific choices,

[00:38:30] uh,

[00:38:31] picking Joe Biden as a VP got us here.

[00:38:35] Yeah.

[00:38:35] Uh,

[00:38:37] the phone call got us here.

[00:38:39] Biden,

[00:38:40] not being a one-term president,

[00:38:41] like he campaigned as and promised he would be.

[00:38:44] I don't know if that mattered.

[00:38:46] I really don't.

[00:38:47] I mean,

[00:38:47] people say that if he didn't,

[00:38:50] well,

[00:38:50] one,

[00:38:51] there would be,

[00:38:51] there'd be less bad vibes stink of Joe Biden hanging over the election.

[00:38:55] And I thought it was fucking hilarious that there was a big Google trend of

[00:38:59] did Joe Biden drop out on election day?

[00:39:01] As people were like,

[00:39:03] huh,

[00:39:03] where is he?

[00:39:04] Um,

[00:39:05] I thought that was fucking hilarious.

[00:39:07] Uh,

[00:39:07] but,

[00:39:08] but the people have said like,

[00:39:10] Oh,

[00:39:10] if there was a real primary season,

[00:39:13] we'd have found a better candidate.

[00:39:14] And I,

[00:39:16] that's a,

[00:39:16] it's a tempting thing to believe,

[00:39:18] but I'm truly thinking about who the Democrats would have run in that primary

[00:39:22] season.

[00:39:23] And they would all be people who eventually run a campaign based on,

[00:39:28] uh,

[00:39:29] we will not implement any changes to the status quo.

[00:39:32] There will be no difference in your life.

[00:39:34] And right with,

[00:39:36] with life sucking this fucking bad,

[00:39:39] there will be no difference in your life is a message that we'll lose every time.

[00:39:44] Why doesn't George Soros fucking give us a lot of money?

[00:39:48] We could,

[00:39:49] honestly,

[00:39:50] if we were as big as fucking Dan Bonchino or fucking like Aiden Ross,

[00:39:58] we would have,

[00:39:59] we would have swayed the election for sure.

[00:40:01] People would have logged on and they say,

[00:40:03] Hey,

[00:40:03] did you know you're allowed to like chrono trigger and hang with the boys and,

[00:40:08] and eat hamburgers?

[00:40:10] And also put you in jail.

[00:40:12] It's fine.

[00:40:13] And also at the same time,

[00:40:15] believe that people shouldn't go to jail for like being gay,

[00:40:23] nothing just for nothing.

[00:40:25] Yeah.

[00:40:26] It's,

[00:40:27] I feel definitely,

[00:40:29] uh,

[00:40:30] a little more doomerie than initially.

[00:40:32] I was kind of numb originally,

[00:40:34] but I also was like occupied cause Ivan was homesick.

[00:40:36] So,

[00:40:37] uh,

[00:40:38] a little bit more doom than before.

[00:40:41] The other thing is that I'm like pre,

[00:40:46] I guess like dreading is just like the degree of which it will be a slog.

[00:40:51] It's just like,

[00:40:52] this will be,

[00:40:52] yeah,

[00:40:53] this will be a,

[00:40:54] like a,

[00:40:55] a,

[00:40:56] a marathon,

[00:40:57] you know,

[00:40:58] it's,

[00:40:58] it's not to say that things are,

[00:41:01] were great under Joe Biden,

[00:41:02] but I do,

[00:41:03] it's worth mentioning that like the first Trump term,

[00:41:05] it was like there was regular rot.

[00:41:07] And then there would be like this insane change just happened.

[00:41:10] We've just got done with four years for the most part where like those,

[00:41:14] those,

[00:41:15] those bombs aren't happening quite as much and they're going to be happening

[00:41:17] again.

[00:41:19] Uh,

[00:41:20] and I'm just,

[00:41:22] just trying to do the accounting for like energy.

[00:41:25] It's just like,

[00:41:26] it is going to be a,

[00:41:28] uh,

[00:41:29] exhausting thing.

[00:41:30] And I say that with every intent to not doom scroll and whatnot,

[00:41:35] which I've done so already.

[00:41:37] Uh,

[00:41:37] which is not,

[00:41:37] I,

[00:41:37] I think I'm just like,

[00:41:39] it's that fucking bad.

[00:41:41] What do I get out of squeezing more into my eyes?

[00:41:44] Yeah.

[00:41:45] Yeah.

[00:41:45] I mean,

[00:41:46] honestly,

[00:41:46] this is what makes doing the skewer live show so difficult in a Trump

[00:41:53] administration.

[00:41:54] And so I may,

[00:41:55] if you didn't hear the recording or go to the show,

[00:41:57] one of my bits in my opening was like,

[00:42:00] I sure hope Kamala wins because if Trump wins,

[00:42:03] uh,

[00:42:03] we're not doing the skewer.

[00:42:05] Sorry.

[00:42:05] Simple as that.

[00:42:07] Bye bye folks.

[00:42:07] And like,

[00:42:08] I wrote that with the hope that,

[00:42:10] uh,

[00:42:11] I wouldn't have to play that out in real life.

[00:42:14] I do.

[00:42:15] And one,

[00:42:16] it's a joke,

[00:42:17] but also the real reason is just that like,

[00:42:20] it's like you say,

[00:42:22] it's just living through that and experiencing the things that occur as a

[00:42:25] slog.

[00:42:26] And it is really hard to make that shit funny because one,

[00:42:33] there is no subtext to Trump.

[00:42:35] He is saying the subtext constantly.

[00:42:39] He's never,

[00:42:39] there's never a hidden message.

[00:42:41] Uh,

[00:42:42] uh,

[00:42:42] so there's nothing to like expose.

[00:42:46] And also,

[00:42:46] also if you,

[00:42:47] if no one does.

[00:42:48] Yeah.

[00:42:49] Yes.

[00:42:49] You have anything on it.

[00:42:50] It's like,

[00:42:51] is anyone going to mention the,

[00:42:54] like the thing that we're all freaked out about?

[00:42:56] Yeah.

[00:42:56] That also is maddening.

[00:42:58] Yeah.

[00:42:58] Cause like,

[00:42:58] I don't know.

[00:42:59] We need to just reboot it as a game show.

[00:43:01] Yeah,

[00:43:02] maybe.

[00:43:04] Uh,

[00:43:05] God damn it.

[00:43:06] Uh,

[00:43:07] it's even,

[00:43:09] even great writers and great comedians.

[00:43:11] If they get the,

[00:43:12] be in their bonnet.

[00:43:14] If I want to tackle this Trump thing this month,

[00:43:17] they end up saying some shit that is not interesting to listen to because you

[00:43:23] can't make any jokes about Trump.

[00:43:25] I don't know if it can't,

[00:43:26] it's very hard to write like a stirring,

[00:43:29] rousing essay about the injustice because it's just like,

[00:43:33] yeah,

[00:43:33] we get it.

[00:43:33] Like everyone fucking knows.

[00:43:35] Also,

[00:43:36] you've heard it before,

[00:43:37] like some version of it.

[00:43:39] Yeah.

[00:43:39] The last time he did a different catastrophe,

[00:43:43] someone was saying this.

[00:43:44] And the key points are still key because like they're,

[00:43:47] uh,

[00:43:48] your community,

[00:43:48] people,

[00:43:49] your network are the most important things.

[00:43:50] Like you can say that a million times.

[00:43:52] It's still true.

[00:43:53] Uh,

[00:43:53] but like,

[00:43:54] I don't,

[00:43:54] I just don't see that you and Erica need to like have a show or like,

[00:43:58] you make sure we do that every time that it feels fake is,

[00:44:03] I don't know.

[00:44:03] Uh,

[00:44:03] the other thing that sucks is I really like seeing Erica perform again.

[00:44:07] I was like,

[00:44:07] thank God this fucking rules.

[00:44:09] Yeah.

[00:44:09] Uh,

[00:44:09] I was so pleased,

[00:44:10] uh,

[00:44:11] to,

[00:44:11] to see her again.

[00:44:13] Um,

[00:44:13] she's incredible and funny.

[00:44:14] Everyone was good,

[00:44:15] but just,

[00:44:16] I've seen Erica perform a lot of times.

[00:44:18] So seeing her do it again after not doing it for such a long time,

[00:44:22] just felt good as hell.

[00:44:25] Yeah.

[00:44:25] That again,

[00:44:25] sorry about doing that folks and feeling those positive emotions.

[00:44:29] Uh,

[00:44:30] I would take it back if I could.

[00:44:33] Yeah,

[00:44:33] no,

[00:44:34] dude,

[00:44:34] I totally seeing everyone,

[00:44:36] seeing the McHenry's,

[00:44:37] seeing you,

[00:44:38] seeing Josh,

[00:44:39] seeing Devin.

[00:44:40] See people yell for anime sickos podcast that I didn't know.

[00:44:43] Like,

[00:44:43] just like,

[00:44:44] who are these people?

[00:44:44] That's a good feeling.

[00:44:45] It was incredible.

[00:44:47] Uh,

[00:44:48] getting a big wad of cash.

[00:44:49] So getting like a,

[00:44:52] a,

[00:44:52] a handful of like mismatched bills hits better than like any paycheck.

[00:44:58] It does.

[00:44:59] It like,

[00:44:59] I I've had a SAS paycheck and I've had this and like,

[00:45:04] obviously the numbers not close,

[00:45:06] but like spiritually the wad is,

[00:45:09] is so much better.

[00:45:11] Dude,

[00:45:11] the,

[00:45:12] the feeling of getting,

[00:45:13] of having the Chris Fleming looking bartender walk up to me and hand me

[00:45:18] the big wad from like the register and be like,

[00:45:22] it's so much.

[00:45:24] I'm like,

[00:45:25] Oh fuck.

[00:45:26] Yes.

[00:45:27] Cause like that was a,

[00:45:28] uh,

[00:45:29] that was the thing that I was worried about is that the previous time we did

[00:45:32] this,

[00:45:32] when we were doing the skewer monthly,

[00:45:34] we had like a relationship with the people at the venue.

[00:45:36] They liked us.

[00:45:38] Like they thought the show was good.

[00:45:40] Like,

[00:45:40] but you know,

[00:45:41] aside from like how they,

[00:45:43] they like everyone they book,

[00:45:44] like in,

[00:45:45] even in context,

[00:45:46] there was a relationship.

[00:45:47] Yes.

[00:45:47] Like even in context,

[00:45:48] they liked us a lot.

[00:45:49] And like,

[00:45:49] they knew us and like,

[00:45:52] we're happy to work with us.

[00:45:53] And,

[00:45:53] uh,

[00:45:53] being as how the venue is a fucking coffee shop and bar,

[00:45:57] uh,

[00:45:57] would you believe there's massive turnover?

[00:45:59] So none of those people are around anymore.

[00:46:01] And it was so fucking good to like immediately get everyone back on our side.

[00:46:06] Like if they were the same people,

[00:46:08] hell yeah.

[00:46:09] And well,

[00:46:10] all of that's for nothing.

[00:46:11] Uh,

[00:46:12] life's a big fucking nightmare.

[00:46:15] So here's another thing that sucks.

[00:46:17] I was,

[00:46:17] I was doing a lot of doom scrolling.

[00:46:19] I was like,

[00:46:20] is like,

[00:46:21] can I like,

[00:46:21] is anyone going to speak to this,

[00:46:23] you know,

[00:46:24] in a way that makes sense?

[00:46:25] No.

[00:46:27] The thing that was like driving me the most insane is this refrain.

[00:46:33] Like,

[00:46:34] what do you expect after demonizing men for 10 years?

[00:46:40] And just,

[00:46:40] just like every,

[00:46:41] every once in a while,

[00:46:42] there's like a sane person being like,

[00:46:44] what do you mean by that?

[00:46:45] Like,

[00:46:46] like,

[00:46:46] when did that happen?

[00:46:48] Like,

[00:46:48] can you actually,

[00:46:49] like,

[00:46:49] when you say that,

[00:46:50] like,

[00:46:50] as though it's just like,

[00:46:51] and as everyone knows,

[00:46:55] white men have been demonized.

[00:46:57] And it's just like the only time that they ever,

[00:46:59] because one,

[00:47:00] they never respond.

[00:47:01] And two,

[00:47:01] the only time they ever respond is like one time when I was acting like a demon,

[00:47:05] I got demonized.

[00:47:07] And it's like,

[00:47:08] well,

[00:47:08] that's your fucking fault.

[00:47:10] And again,

[00:47:11] what is more demonic than voting for Donald Trump?

[00:47:14] We were right to hate you.

[00:47:16] Yeah.

[00:47:17] So I would say anyone who's like,

[00:47:20] oh,

[00:47:20] it's,

[00:47:20] I'm anxious.

[00:47:22] I think that's justified.

[00:47:24] Yeah.

[00:47:25] I think that is an element here.

[00:47:29] Chances are how you're feeling is not incorrect.

[00:47:35] I guess it's good to start there.

[00:47:38] Yeah.

[00:47:38] I don't know.

[00:47:39] We don't,

[00:47:40] we're just idiots.

[00:47:41] We are correctly predicting it's going to be bad because it is,

[00:47:44] but like you,

[00:47:45] you can say that about every aspect of life.

[00:47:47] Like,

[00:47:47] oh,

[00:47:47] it's going to get worse.

[00:47:48] Oh,

[00:47:48] I won the bet.

[00:47:49] Yeah.

[00:47:49] I mean,

[00:47:50] again,

[00:47:50] what would it mean for something to get better?

[00:47:53] Someone,

[00:47:53] a house would have to get built.

[00:47:55] People would have to take proactive action to improve things in a structural level.

[00:47:59] Well,

[00:47:59] that takes will.

[00:48:01] It takes a lot of people agreeing to start doing it and it costs money.

[00:48:05] And the return on that investment will come a lot later.

[00:48:08] And,

[00:48:09] well,

[00:48:10] the Republicans aren't going to do that because they love evil.

[00:48:12] And the Democrats aren't going to do that because they don't want to.

[00:48:16] So,

[00:48:17] uh-oh,

[00:48:18] entropy wins every time.

[00:48:20] I get,

[00:48:20] okay,

[00:48:21] I,

[00:48:22] I don't want to end on,

[00:48:23] on such a doomerish note.

[00:48:25] And again,

[00:48:25] this is,

[00:48:26] I'm about to say some shit you've heard one million times from a bunch of fucking inspirational posters.

[00:48:31] And so,

[00:48:32] take it with that amount of salt.

[00:48:35] But like,

[00:48:35] it is the reason why we're going to keep doing Anime Sego's podcast.

[00:48:39] It is the reason why I still think like,

[00:48:43] well,

[00:48:43] maybe could we do the skewer?

[00:48:45] Maybe?

[00:48:45] I,

[00:48:46] I don't know.

[00:48:47] And it's the reason that the thing that I've been doing to sort of like assuage my horrible waves of nausea this week has been working on my next stupid fucking sickos disco Elysium-like game.

[00:48:59] Which is like,

[00:49:01] we weren't joking about saying okay at the beginning.

[00:49:04] Like,

[00:49:05] it really helps to like carve out a space or an activity or something that is like good and makes you feel good.

[00:49:16] And even if it is just a distraction,

[00:49:18] uh,

[00:49:19] and the howling void eventually reaches its hand out for you,

[00:49:22] uh,

[00:49:23] I don't think the distraction is going to do anything.

[00:49:25] but man,

[00:49:26] the time between now and the hand reaching for you,

[00:49:29] it's not going to make the hand grab you any less tightly if you spend it all constantly fucking freaking out.