We really lean in to being in our mid-30s in this one. We jaw about our various home improvement projects, and Joe goes deeper into how to become a genius parent to a wonderful child (this time for real, it's not an extended bit that uses that as a premise). Plus, Joe goes nuts about pachinko deckbuilder Ballionaire, which contains a game mechanic so good that all previous games are rendered dogshit for not including.
[00:00:00] Hello folks, I have to warn you that for a reason I'm about to explain, my audio in the upcoming episode doesn't sound the way I would want it to. Why? I got a new laptop because my old one was 8 years old. This new laptop, being that it was made this year, is running Windows 11. Windows 11, when you put a microphone in it, decides to apply audio enhancements to it. It's a new feature where they add audio enhancements.
[00:00:30] This is on by default. Previously, when we recorded an episode on this laptop, I noticed that my fucking audio sounded terrible. I discovered it was the audio enhancements that was doing it, and I turned that shit off. And I said to myself, the evil is defeated.
[00:00:46] No, they turned it back on. So this whole time, for the rest of this episode, you're going to be hearing my microphone with audio enhancements on. And when you hear how lovely those enhancements are, you'll understand why Microsoft thinks everyone would want them turned on all the time. It's still listenable. But yeah, I just wanted to give you a heads up. Oh, well.
[00:01:14] Behold, a cold open. Tom, we are currently both unemployed, right? Fuck! Oh, fuck!
[00:01:22] Oh, sorry.
[00:01:24] Yes. The answer is yes.
[00:01:26] You know, like Friday, there's no money?
[00:01:29] At first, I was so excited because you don't have to do the work anymore. But they don't fucking pay you.
[00:01:34] It sucks. However, as you have also experienced, looking for work is like awful.
[00:01:40] It's a nightmare. I redid my LinkedIn the other day, and it was like, self-harm.
[00:01:44] I've not done that because for some reason, I see it as like a public humiliation. Like I am stacking my turds.
[00:01:53] Yes.
[00:01:53] That's why everyone who has ever worked with me can see it.
[00:01:56] Mm-hmm.
[00:01:56] Exactly.
[00:01:56] But anyway, I saw a business where I was like, oh shit, okay, that's what I wanted. I need this. I need to get them my resume like yesterday and your resume.
[00:02:08] Yeah, that's interesting. That's something that you really want to have because, I mean, we've done stupid tech email jobs, which is a type of job that is fake and is going away.
[00:02:17] And so like we need, the thing that we need to do strategically is like realign what we're looking for career-wise.
[00:02:24] And one thing I hate personally is I just can't stand, and this is a tech issue of just like, oh, your well-meaning family member asks like what you do and like you just can't like, you can give the answer, but you just sound insane and stupid because it's just like, yeah, I monitor metrics for KPIs as they come in through the, like no one fucking cares.
[00:02:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:44] However, there are other jobs, other companies that have names that are immediately clear, like, oh shit, this is what they do, and this is the value you provide.
[00:02:54] I saw the name of this company on the bag of a truck, and I almost crashed my car because of all the perceived value I could bring to them.
[00:03:04] The name of the company is the Chicago Paper Tube Company.
[00:03:07] Jeff, there's one thing that I love.
[00:03:09] When it comes to cylinders, I feel like their greatest application is in the Humble Tube.
[00:03:15] I didn't know they were making tubes in Chicago.
[00:03:17] That's incredible.
[00:03:18] I didn't know they were doing anything in Chicago.
[00:03:20] Okay, here's the thing though.
[00:03:21] They'll do anything.
[00:03:22] This company will do everything from those tubes you put dorm posters in to tampons, like everything.
[00:03:29] Like if it's a paper tube, they do it.
[00:03:32] And here's kind of what I was thinking about, like sort of our way we wow them.
[00:03:36] Yeah, because I was going to ask, like, what?
[00:03:38] Why us?
[00:03:38] Yeah, you know, what do we offer?
[00:03:40] It feels like they got it all.
[00:03:41] They have a truck.
[00:03:42] They are the tube company.
[00:03:44] It's like they're done.
[00:03:46] Yeah, like their blockers don't include us.
[00:03:50] They don't have us yet.
[00:03:51] Yeah, okay, well what are we doing?
[00:03:54] So here's where we sort of match our skill to a need they don't realize they even have.
[00:03:59] Tom, all those paper tubes are going out the door blank.
[00:04:05] There should be like jokes on them, like Laffy Taffy shit.
[00:04:08] Like bombs from World War II.
[00:04:10] They should have funny names and like phrases.
[00:04:13] You know what I could do?
[00:04:14] A babe should be on them too maybe.
[00:04:16] Like you know how the bombs would have the babes.
[00:04:18] Here's what you do.
[00:04:19] You take a famous three word phrase, live, laugh, love for example.
[00:04:24] You write one of those three words on three tubes except you change one of them with depose and you don't explain why you did that.
[00:04:30] But bombs will be live, laugh, depose.
[00:04:34] And apparently no one calls you out on how one of the words is depose.
[00:04:39] But that would be good.
[00:04:41] We could write our favorite Simpsons show.
[00:04:42] We could write a little momimemo and draw a little Chief Wiggum.
[00:04:46] This would actually, you know, we've always said art and drawing is like so mysterious to us.
[00:04:52] Like how can you ever draw?
[00:04:53] And everyone's like, well anyone can draw.
[00:04:54] You just have to practice and do it.
[00:04:56] But we don't.
[00:04:56] We just needed the tubes.
[00:04:57] We just needed the tubes.
[00:04:59] The medium is the message.
[00:05:00] And we got lots of artist friends too.
[00:05:02] We could like do a mural project on a really big tube.
[00:05:05] That's true.
[00:05:06] That's true.
[00:05:07] And if they don't make a tube that big, I mean this is the kind of thing.
[00:05:12] If you did, that would be a USP.
[00:05:15] If not even that the tube is there useful for any purposes but like you're known.
[00:05:19] You have free marketing as they're the company, the Chicago Tube Company, that makes the huge tube.
[00:05:24] And they wouldn't have done that if we hadn't put forward that tube mural.
[00:05:28] Joe, speaking of the word tube, you ever hear people refer to sausages as tube steak?
[00:05:36] What's the most foul tube words in the universe?
[00:05:40] This is English people thing, right?
[00:05:42] Like this is not like normal bipedal behavior.
[00:05:45] I've heard real bipeds from an actual country would just say this one, calling a sausage a tube steak.
[00:05:53] It is.
[00:05:54] And I dare not even ring up what else some foul people call a tube steak.
[00:06:01] But you can probably take a wild guess.
[00:06:03] This is just a Salisbury steak scam in a different shape.
[00:06:06] Yeah, the shape of tube.
[00:06:08] The noble tube, really.
[00:06:10] Which we should be writing jokes on.
[00:06:11] Yeah, so I'm going to send them our resumes.
[00:06:16] I'm just hoping.
[00:06:17] Like it'll probably be.
[00:06:18] It's the holidays, so they'll probably do the hiring really quick.
[00:06:21] Yeah, that's how I've been seeing the job market go these last couple.
[00:06:25] Here's what it's going to be.
[00:06:26] And there's going to be the tube Christmas rush because you got all that wrapping paper.
[00:06:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:06:32] Jeez, that's a paper tube twice over because the tube is paper and then it's wrapped in additional paper.
[00:06:37] That's all money for that.
[00:06:38] So they need people.
[00:06:39] And also, that's the perfect thing to write a joke on the tube because you're done with the wrapping paper.
[00:06:43] And you know, what is your feeling when you're done with the roll of wrapping paper?
[00:06:47] I'm surrounded by garbage.
[00:06:49] On nuts.
[00:06:49] Surrounded by garbage.
[00:06:50] No more wrapping paper.
[00:06:52] Pure negative.
[00:06:53] Pure negative.
[00:06:54] Now, what if that wrapping paper tube said depose on it in the next two times?
[00:07:00] Oh, and you would get clarity.
[00:07:02] Yes, I see.
[00:07:02] You would see laugh and love and you'd be like, I get it.
[00:07:36] Welcome to Anime Sickos.
[00:07:38] It's the podcast for geniuses and the only podcast where we look at anime, gaming, posting, and jobs.
[00:07:46] The four pillars of modern misery.
[00:07:49] I am Tom, an anime sicko.
[00:07:50] I am Joe, an anime sicko.
[00:07:52] We don't have any new Patreon people, but I still want to dither at the beginning.
[00:07:56] Here's how I'm going to accomplish this.
[00:07:58] I want to talk about the Tom's Record Club newsletter I started the other week.
[00:08:05] You don't know about this.
[00:08:07] It means you haven't been following us on social media or in our Discord, which is fine.
[00:08:11] But there probably aren't many if you used to.
[00:08:13] I'm just looking at the numbers and it feels like you're all there.
[00:08:15] Anywho, what I did was, because I want to talk about music.
[00:08:19] Joe, you know this all the time I'm talking about.
[00:08:20] I'm like, Joe, can I talk to you about fucking like King Crimson?
[00:08:26] And Joe goes, sure, but like it's going to be like one way.
[00:08:32] Like you're just going to talk at me and I will say that's neat.
[00:08:35] And that's fun.
[00:08:36] But like I talking at like that's that's my pet.
[00:08:40] That's just like my imagination.
[00:08:41] I'm already talking with no one saying you can do that to your cat.
[00:08:44] And you probably do.
[00:08:45] Yes.
[00:08:46] Correct on both accounts.
[00:08:48] And also, here's the other thing.
[00:08:50] Even if I got you do the Herculean task of listening to a album, that's like this is the worst possible.
[00:08:56] But the extemporaneous podcast where we're just talking is the worst medium to talk about it.
[00:09:03] Because I have such a limited like my talk about music stat is just low.
[00:09:09] Yeah, it's just very low.
[00:09:11] I just don't have the skill set.
[00:09:12] It's very hard to talk about.
[00:09:13] I did college radio.
[00:09:15] And the thing is, I did a punk show, which sort of solved that problem.
[00:09:20] So, but it's just people who can write about it and talk about it intelligently.
[00:09:26] It is a skill like all arts writing.
[00:09:28] But I think I think the reason it is hard compared to other arts writing.
[00:09:39] Is unlike other mediums, I feel like with music writing, you constantly are walking this line of like informed and douchebag.
[00:09:51] And I don't pick up that you can be like a, I don't know, like a prick about movies or whatever.
[00:09:58] But there's something about music that really has this.
[00:10:01] Do you agree with me here?
[00:10:02] Yes.
[00:10:03] Unlike, I think unlike movies, music, the thing that this music is that music has a much, much broader spectrum of complexity that you can easily access.
[00:10:16] Like you can listen to some real weird music that like is doing a lot of crazy stuff and can't really watch that weird of a movie.
[00:10:28] They don't make movies that are like so confusing and so upsetting that like people like for sure aren't going to understand it.
[00:10:38] I think the additional sort of like communication issue is, and if you're good at music writing, this isn't a problem.
[00:10:43] But with like a movie, you point to something that happened.
[00:10:47] You point to a concrete detail.
[00:10:49] When you're writing about music, you have to like sort of first generate the targeting system.
[00:10:55] I'm going to be talking about this thing, which is abstract that you've heard of.
[00:10:59] I'm not talking about a big head on a screen.
[00:11:04] And for that reason, like it feels more ephemeral and you just get the only tool in your toolbox is language.
[00:11:13] And that's not what is being used to like.
[00:11:16] That's that's a fundamental mismatch with your subject.
[00:11:19] Because, I mean, there are lyrics, but like that's not the only thing.
[00:11:23] If you're just going to focus on lyrics, that's just a poetry.
[00:11:26] That's just a close reading, which is not.
[00:11:29] Yeah, it's not unlike just doing a review based on plot.
[00:11:33] It's sort of like you were looking at the structure only.
[00:11:37] Yeah, I'll just say we can't fucking we can't talk like I'm trying to be a good music writer in this project.
[00:11:45] But I know the only way that I can do it is it is because writing takes a long time and I can think about like, what the fuck words do I use?
[00:11:53] If I was trying to do that live, I would never say anything smart.
[00:11:56] And also, you can't put clips of music in a podcast.
[00:12:01] They know they'll get you.
[00:12:03] They'll fucking get you.
[00:12:04] So what I do, I have a newsletter called Tom's Record Club dot Substack dot com.
[00:12:10] Isn't Substack the Nazi site?
[00:12:12] Yeah, but I looked into migrating it and they make you pay for the other ones.
[00:12:18] Substack's free.
[00:12:19] That's probably why it's popular and full of Nazis.
[00:12:22] Yeah.
[00:12:23] Tom's Record Club dot Substack dot com.
[00:12:25] What we do is I name a record.
[00:12:28] We go we wait a week.
[00:12:30] People have a week to listen to it.
[00:12:31] If you go to the Anime Seiko's Discord, there's a channel called Tom's Record Club.
[00:12:35] You can fucking talk about it, what you think about the record and talk about other people and discuss it.
[00:12:42] And then at the end of the week, I put out my essay, my review of the album.
[00:12:48] I include all the cogent points that the discussion group had in like the little letters to the editor section.
[00:12:57] And then I named the new one.
[00:13:00] And I'm trying to alternate between albums I pick and albums that the people in the club pick.
[00:13:09] So it's not always me.
[00:13:09] And also because it's like this.
[00:13:11] I want to listen to some shit that I'd not that I wouldn't normally.
[00:13:15] And this is a good way.
[00:13:16] Listening to new stuff is a skill that you just stop practicing.
[00:13:20] Like when you turn 30.
[00:13:22] I think it's not even a skill.
[00:13:23] I think it's like, you know, those videos where like there's a really high pitched tone that gets higher and higher.
[00:13:28] Oh, it's just you.
[00:13:29] It's lost from you.
[00:13:30] Yes.
[00:13:30] Yes.
[00:13:30] Like you just can't do it.
[00:13:32] So this is cool.
[00:13:33] It's been we did one.
[00:13:35] I did R.E.M. Murmur first album I ever bought one of my favorites of all time.
[00:13:41] And it was great.
[00:13:42] I had a great time.
[00:13:43] It was hard to do music writing for the reason to be described.
[00:13:46] But I really had a good time.
[00:13:48] And it was so interesting to have people who were not me have different opinions because I don't know if you know this, but I am me.
[00:13:56] And my opinions are the things that I live with 24 hours a day.
[00:14:00] So which is not that bad because they're.
[00:14:03] Correct.
[00:14:04] That's true.
[00:14:05] But it does get sort of the samey.
[00:14:07] Anyway, all of this is to say, if you're interested in that, it's a lot of fun.
[00:14:11] I don't make any money because I don't charge for it and I never will.
[00:14:15] Joe, that's all.
[00:14:16] That's all I have to say about my dithering.
[00:14:20] What's going on with you?
[00:14:22] How's your garage?
[00:14:23] I'm full dad mode.
[00:14:24] I'm full dad mode.
[00:14:26] The point of life is to upgrade your domicile.
[00:14:29] Do you understand me?
[00:14:30] That is the purpose of life.
[00:14:32] Don't, don't, don't.
[00:14:33] I.
[00:14:33] Wah, wah.
[00:14:35] Our garage door got fucked.
[00:14:37] The opener didn't work.
[00:14:39] The logistics of which, when you have a kid, just like ruins your life.
[00:14:43] It just does.
[00:14:45] One of the issues is, yeah, can't you just do it manually?
[00:14:47] No, it's fucked up on the track, asshole.
[00:14:49] So if I yank on it, it doesn't do anything.
[00:14:51] So it's replaced now.
[00:14:54] But the replacement came with two garage openers, like two clickers.
[00:15:00] The previous one could only support one.
[00:15:01] And now we have a keypad.
[00:15:04] And like, I will just sit and think about how I can leave the house securely without even
[00:15:13] bringing my keys with me.
[00:15:15] And I like, I don't know what the feeling is.
[00:15:17] I guess it's like leveling up.
[00:15:19] It's just like this feeling of contentment.
[00:15:21] I'm looking at your notes.
[00:15:22] It says, it feels like you made the jump from town hall to castle completely skipping keep.
[00:15:26] Yes, absolutely.
[00:15:29] Like now, like, dude, now I can have homies come pick up stuff for them when I'm not there.
[00:15:35] So like, now I'm a business, basically.
[00:15:39] When you said leave the house without keys, I like got a panic response because you can't
[00:15:46] do like Joe, you'll get locked out.
[00:15:48] Like you can't do that.
[00:15:49] I got every time, like, especially in the winter, every time I go take the garbage out,
[00:15:53] I have a panic response because I pat my fucking pocket expecting to find my keys.
[00:15:58] Don't.
[00:15:59] And I go, oh God, I'm trapped outside.
[00:16:01] And then I realized I put it in the pocket of my coat.
[00:16:03] Just like the idea of like doing stuff that I can, I couldn't do before without difficulties.
[00:16:10] Amazing.
[00:16:10] Like, like now I can be out of town and I can give someone a clicker to check in on the cats.
[00:16:16] I'm like, that's royalty.
[00:16:18] Like I'm a king now.
[00:16:19] But you give them the keypad code and they wouldn't even need the clicker.
[00:16:23] You could.
[00:16:24] And you could even do temporary codes if you like, I don't know, just have a new group
[00:16:28] of friends you're testing out.
[00:16:31] You know, here's the thing.
[00:16:32] We've often said in the past that we disdain technology and computers and that they often
[00:16:36] break.
[00:16:37] And we were actually saying it earlier today because Discord, for whatever reason, decided
[00:16:41] you don't have a microphone.
[00:16:43] Also, Windows 11 made my microphone sound like shit.
[00:16:46] But I actually completely changed my tune.
[00:16:49] We live in Star Trek.
[00:16:51] This is the best.
[00:16:51] This, no, your previous opinion about computers being wrong is correct.
[00:16:56] It sucks.
[00:16:57] The reason this isn't a computer, it's a very simple mechanical reason.
[00:17:01] There's a big fucking chain on the device.
[00:17:03] If there's a huge chain, it's not a computer.
[00:17:05] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:17:07] Is this going...
[00:17:10] See, Joe, I'm about to bring something up that I don't know if we'll be able to discuss intelligently
[00:17:15] because we will have both forgotten the core concept.
[00:17:18] But is this related to the gizmo versus doodad dichotomy?
[00:17:23] Oh, absolutely.
[00:17:23] This is absolutely it.
[00:17:25] I've also come to the realization that the dynamic, us as people, is I'm a doodad.
[00:17:32] You are a gizmo.
[00:17:33] Forget which one's good.
[00:17:35] A doodad is a single-use thing that does one thing just, like, very well repeatedly.
[00:17:42] And a gizmo is a complex thing that, like, has multifunctions and sort of aggregates abilities
[00:17:50] and is a big picture thing.
[00:17:51] Whereas a doodad is, like, a single...
[00:17:53] Like, a fucking dinosaur head on a stick that picks something up.
[00:17:58] Like, this is one purpose.
[00:18:00] Anbernic versus laptop.
[00:18:02] I also...
[00:18:03] That makes a good point because I often break and forget that I have a microphone
[00:18:07] and turn on audio processing by default when someone gets a new laptop.
[00:18:12] And randomly again when it has already been turned off previously.
[00:18:17] And it makes the microphones sound weird.
[00:18:21] So it's for sure a doodad.
[00:18:23] In its current state.
[00:18:25] They offered a gizmo upgrade for $20 a month, which I defiantly turned down because
[00:18:33] I'm spiritually pure, going to heaven, all those things.
[00:18:36] But basically, for $20 a month, you could get an app that would allow you to remotely
[00:18:41] open and close the garage door with your phone from anywhere.
[00:18:46] I do not think that it's worth $20.
[00:18:48] And all I can think of is it's going to get hacked and then all my shit will get taken.
[00:18:52] Yeah.
[00:18:53] I don't know how it would get hacked.
[00:18:55] It's just like, now there's another vector into opening my house.
[00:18:59] The heated phone.
[00:19:00] See, now this is a gizmo.
[00:19:01] This is a gizmo for sure.
[00:19:03] What pause could there ever be to have the ability to open your garage door on the phone?
[00:19:09] Because like, what?
[00:19:10] You already said you had two clickers.
[00:19:12] That's like an embarrassing...
[00:19:14] You're like rich with clickers.
[00:19:15] The idea, I guess, is you're like, oh, we left for the airport to do the home alone vacation.
[00:19:21] Oh no, the garage door is up.
[00:19:23] We can close it from such a distance.
[00:19:28] Is that $20 a month to you?
[00:19:30] Is that really worth it?
[00:19:31] And also understand, any doodad that becomes afflicted, contaminated by interfacing with a phone
[00:19:38] becomes a gizmo.
[00:19:39] Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm.
[00:19:40] Culture shock, identity loss.
[00:19:43] This is no good.
[00:19:44] And also, that scenario...
[00:19:48] See, this is the atomization and isolationism of modern society at work, isn't it?
[00:19:54] Yeah, that's a key concept of leftism, which we invented.
[00:19:58] Yeah, we invented leftism.
[00:19:59] And it's one...
[00:20:00] And like, you open up the fucking Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, but scratched out,
[00:20:05] and then we wrote our names.
[00:20:06] And the first paragraph is like, sometimes you are leaving your garage door open.
[00:20:10] And in that scenario, you as a homie should be, like, honored to have the job of going
[00:20:18] to your bud's house and closing the garage door before villains ransack his home and take
[00:20:24] his private property, which we believe in.
[00:20:27] Wait, oh, oh no.
[00:20:29] Oh no.
[00:20:29] I'm not supposed to say that.
[00:20:31] So yeah, if you read the Communist Manifesto, it's all in there.
[00:20:34] The fixed garage door also cuts down on this, I guess, invasive thought I kept having for a
[00:20:41] while, because I would have to, like, go outside, unlock the front door, then go get the boy from
[00:20:48] the backseat to bring him in.
[00:20:50] And all I could think of is the Carney episode of The Simpsons when they get their house back
[00:20:54] by just, like, quickly running in the door, and just someone doing that to me.
[00:20:59] Yeah.
[00:21:00] And then the boy is like, you got...
[00:21:01] The boy's gone.
[00:21:02] No, he would still be in the car.
[00:21:04] I'd be like, you want to...
[00:21:05] There's your new family?
[00:21:06] You want to be with them?
[00:21:07] They are homeowners.
[00:21:11] That's a really stable way to be.
[00:21:13] Again, provided that a squatter does not run in, in which case all that stability is destroyed
[00:21:20] and a stroke.
[00:21:21] Well, I was just thinking that because you would bring the boy in the garage.
[00:21:24] If you bring...
[00:21:24] That would be truly the nightmare.
[00:21:26] Your boy's in the garage.
[00:21:28] You're outside.
[00:21:29] Squatter.
[00:21:30] Now it's his son.
[00:21:32] Yeah.
[00:21:33] That's a worst case scenario.
[00:21:34] You can't even mourn because it's like, what are you doing being sad over some other
[00:21:38] guy's kid?
[00:21:39] That's creepy.
[00:21:40] And you can't even get mad because that's a good point.
[00:21:42] Yeah, you're just some creep now.
[00:21:44] Yeah.
[00:21:44] Like, who are you crying about?
[00:21:46] Just...
[00:21:50] We're on the home improvement talk.
[00:21:53] Talk about how your roof is fucked.
[00:21:55] How every day I get messages from Tom that's like, we have a big wicker egg chair that has
[00:22:02] a cover.
[00:22:03] Unfortunately, it acts as a big sale.
[00:22:06] And every morning I wake up and it has destroyed every building in a 90 mile radius.
[00:22:11] Do you think I should get rid of this thing?
[00:22:12] Okay.
[00:22:13] So here's the thing.
[00:22:14] We thought we were so lucky because when we were moving into this place, it has a roof
[00:22:18] deck.
[00:22:19] My God.
[00:22:20] A roof deck for this price?
[00:22:21] Which is sick as hell.
[00:22:22] Whoa.
[00:22:22] There's nothing wrong with the roof deck.
[00:22:24] The issue is you're trying to sit in a parachute.
[00:22:27] Well, I'll get there.
[00:22:30] Roof deck is on the fourth floor.
[00:22:32] It's probably not going to be that windy up there.
[00:22:34] Yes, it is.
[00:22:35] Two, the reason we're extra lucky, the people who are moving out, they're not moving in Chicago.
[00:22:41] They're moving across the country.
[00:22:42] They don't want to bring all this deck furniture with them.
[00:22:45] They're like, do you just want it?
[00:22:47] We'll sell it to you for pennies.
[00:22:49] And we said, hell yeah, we'll have that.
[00:22:53] And one of the things was a big wicker egg chair, as Joe mentioned.
[00:22:57] And when it is a nice sunny day and there's not a lot of wind, it is so pleasant to sit
[00:23:03] in that chair up on the roof.
[00:23:06] However, you want to cover that egg chair up so that it does not get rained on and ruined
[00:23:11] by the elements.
[00:23:12] Yeah.
[00:23:12] And as Joe suggests, when you're not sitting in this egg chair, it weighs about five pounds.
[00:23:19] And no matter how tightly you tie the cover, wind just goes underneath and it becomes a
[00:23:28] big sail, like from a sailboat.
[00:23:30] And this fucker starts pinging around my fucking deck like a pinball.
[00:23:35] And so every day that it is very windy, 24 hours a day, this is what I hear.
[00:23:46] And it's windy constantly.
[00:23:48] It's the windiest it's ever been on Earth because of climate change, especially now because it's
[00:23:53] getting to be the winter.
[00:23:54] So a lot of cold air fronts come in and cause incredible wind.
[00:23:59] And I've tried bungee courting it to things.
[00:24:02] It doesn't work because it is shaped like an egg.
[00:24:04] And so the torch just slip off.
[00:24:06] And I've considered maybe I will lash a cinder block to it.
[00:24:11] Yes.
[00:24:11] To weigh it down.
[00:24:12] I said this, do this.
[00:24:13] Yes, yes.
[00:24:13] And then you were like, wouldn't it just become a wrecking ball potentially?
[00:24:17] Yeah.
[00:24:17] Wouldn't I be playing Odama for the fucking GameCube where a big in ball destroys feudal
[00:24:24] Japan?
[00:24:25] And did you consider my suggestion there?
[00:24:28] I'm considering it, but I'm just two cinder blocks then.
[00:24:31] Two cinder blocks.
[00:24:33] I need to hire like a teen who doesn't have anything better to do.
[00:24:37] It's sitting at 24 seven.
[00:24:40] I mean, I don't have a lot going on right now.
[00:24:43] Uh, uh, but the whole thing.
[00:24:47] And the whole deck is, I get into these moods from just like the deck is a curse.
[00:24:53] The deck has given me nothing but pain because every single.
[00:24:57] It's really funny.
[00:24:58] It's the opposite of home improvement.
[00:24:59] You are haunted by your domicile.
[00:25:03] Yeah.
[00:25:03] Because I, the, the fucking deck is real wood.
[00:25:06] They didn't use that plastic stuff.
[00:25:09] So I have to like do something to that wood and I don't really know what it is.
[00:25:13] And you're probably thinking at home, Tom, just look it up.
[00:25:16] If I start looking it up, I can't ignore it.
[00:25:20] You know, if I'm not doing anything, I can put it off for another day.
[00:25:24] Do you follow my logic here?
[00:25:25] It's flawless.
[00:25:26] All or nothing.
[00:25:27] It's like this either consumes me or I'm kind of pissed.
[00:25:31] Yeah.
[00:25:32] Uh, the wind, winter is coming.
[00:25:34] It's going to snow.
[00:25:35] And I'm just like, what the fuck do I do with that?
[00:25:37] And here's the thing about the egg chair is that I'm just like, we, how many times did
[00:25:41] we go on the deck this summer?
[00:25:43] Like six, like six times.
[00:25:47] Only when we had guests, we never went up there basically on our own.
[00:25:50] How many times was the egg chair critical?
[00:25:53] Like none.
[00:25:54] I'm just like, let's just fucking get rid of it.
[00:25:56] My wife loves the egg chair.
[00:25:57] So she's like, no, I want to keep it.
[00:25:59] I want to keep it.
[00:26:01] And, uh, so we're keeping it.
[00:26:03] I don't know.
[00:26:03] I don't know.
[00:26:04] That's marriage, baby.
[00:26:05] Like some amazing non-negotiables.
[00:26:08] I love it.
[00:26:09] It's great.
[00:26:09] I guess what I'm saying is this incredible fortune I lucked into is, uh, it's a little
[00:26:15] inconvenient.
[00:26:17] And I hate that.
[00:26:18] So what I am hearing a problem that'll never get solved.
[00:26:22] In fact, if it did get solved, would upset your wife.
[00:26:25] So, uh, good luck, loser.
[00:26:28] Cat.
[00:26:30] Cat.
[00:26:33] Cat dog.
[00:26:34] It's cat dog.
[00:26:35] So speaking of, uh, new home, this new place that we moved into this year, the first place
[00:26:43] we've ever had, uh, I've ever lived in that has the heating vents on the floor.
[00:26:49] Usually they're way up near the ceiling.
[00:26:50] Now they're on the floor.
[00:26:52] And my kitty cat, Lucy, she hates getting air blown on her, but she likes being warm way
[00:26:59] more.
[00:26:59] And it took her very, very short amount of time after the heat was turned on to realize
[00:27:04] what the deal was.
[00:27:06] Uh, and so she even put one of her beds that she doesn't use.
[00:27:09] It's sort of like a covered, like a little cave.
[00:27:11] You put it right next to a heating vents so that when it blows, it blows like diagonally
[00:27:16] right in.
[00:27:16] And she is spending like 23 hours a day in there.
[00:27:20] This is a bed that she disdained before.
[00:27:22] And now, you know, we, we call her stupid and she is, but it is every once in a while,
[00:27:28] she displays incredible logic and adaptability.
[00:27:30] Like that's the warmest place.
[00:27:32] You did it.
[00:27:33] Yeah.
[00:27:33] And like, so she'll still sit in my lap for dude time.
[00:27:36] But whereas before I would be able to be like, I know for sure that she's going to stay
[00:27:41] in my lap until I get up.
[00:27:42] If I stayed in this couch till like 8am, she would stay there till 8am.
[00:27:48] Uh, but now, uh, after like two hours, she's like, anyway, glad we had this collaboration.
[00:27:54] We really, I really got a lot out of that.
[00:27:55] Bye bye.
[00:27:56] And she goes into her little warm bed.
[00:27:58] It's so cute.
[00:28:00] Joe, you have any cat talk stuff?
[00:28:01] Uh, so the cats are entering a new paradigm.
[00:28:05] Uh, Ariel, I think because I gave her catnip for the first time in a while.
[00:28:09] And I think I gave her too much.
[00:28:10] And I honestly think I rewired her brain.
[00:28:13] I think it's different now.
[00:28:14] She was never like a, I eat human food thing, but now she's like fucking stealing my pancakes
[00:28:19] off of my plate.
[00:28:20] And I'm like, well, I did this to you with drugs.
[00:28:22] I'm sorry.
[00:28:24] Uh, uh, Roman continues to be, uh, the greatest boy of all time.
[00:28:29] His health stuff is stable, which is wonderful.
[00:28:32] Hell yeah.
[00:28:33] The main difference in the behavior is like, they, they like hanging out by the boy.
[00:28:37] They like to chill by the boy.
[00:28:39] But as soon as the boy is down, they understand that like, like now you have to like, look
[00:28:48] at us.
[00:28:50] Like when it, when it's like 630 goes, uh, rolls around and he's trying to get to sleep,
[00:28:55] they switch into like, okay, now you owe us all that attention.
[00:28:59] Yes.
[00:28:59] Which you so selfishly were giving to that little guy.
[00:29:02] Uh, so I'm still trying to manage, uh, like how to like keep them a little more occupied
[00:29:08] during the day.
[00:29:09] So that final, like, ah, is a little less crazy.
[00:29:14] Um, uh, it's fun though.
[00:29:16] Like both camps like just hanging out by him and he loves petting them.
[00:29:22] He's pet them on his own.
[00:29:24] He's pet them like obviously like gently with assistance, but like he's also done a pretty
[00:29:29] gentle pet on his own.
[00:29:30] That's Joe.
[00:29:32] One of the most like cutest things a little, a little guy can do is like pet a cat correctly
[00:29:39] because it like tells a story.
[00:29:41] You can see his little brain being like muscles be gentle.
[00:29:46] Like there's like effort at play.
[00:29:48] I mean, also this is how we change the world, dude.
[00:29:51] This is what are we teaching little boys?
[00:29:52] What, what sort of, what more of boys media is out there?
[00:29:55] Hate, violence, kill, hate.
[00:29:58] This is.
[00:29:59] They don't know how to pet a cat.
[00:30:00] Gentle pet a cat.
[00:30:02] Love.
[00:30:02] Uh, there's also, uh, an increasing alliance between Roman and the boy, uh, because Winnie's
[00:30:09] mom will make just like a huge batch of, uh, food for Ivan for the week.
[00:30:14] Uh, so when we're not cooking, he just has, uh, you know, heated up frozen grandma food.
[00:30:19] Hell yeah.
[00:30:20] So grandma food consists without exception of like a green peas and then a protein, which is almost always salmon.
[00:30:29] And the thing is, Ivan just always has to give salmon to Roman.
[00:30:36] Like he has to share.
[00:30:37] Aww.
[00:30:37] It's so cute.
[00:30:39] It's very funny.
[00:30:41] Uh, I had to kind of step in because like, what do you normally do is just like, I'll just drop it for him.
[00:30:46] Um, or I will like hold it.
[00:30:49] And then like, oops, I dropped it knowing he will go get it.
[00:30:51] And then like, I stepped away for a minute and I just came back and like, both of them were eating off the same plate.
[00:30:56] And I was like, okay, no, hold on.
[00:30:58] Stop.
[00:31:00] I was just like, I don't understand.
[00:31:02] He's my brother.
[00:31:03] Like, no.
[00:31:03] And he was completely fine.
[00:31:05] Like he was so like, yeah, I love this guy.
[00:31:06] This is fun.
[00:31:08] Uh, so that's been a fun dynamic.
[00:31:11] And the other thing that's kind of fun is the salmon does not cause tummy issues, which means it's like in the process of accidentally feeding him salmon, we discovered a thing that will not mess up his tummy, which is very ooky.
[00:31:27] He's on a very limited diet.
[00:31:28] Yeah.
[00:31:29] He's, he's been historically a skin and bones type of guy, which is, uh, you hate to see that.
[00:31:35] And yeah, I want to see that reversed.
[00:31:39] Yeah.
[00:31:40] Uh, but he's in good spirits.
[00:31:41] He's in very good spirits.
[00:31:42] Uh, he's very talky.
[00:31:44] Uh, one year into having a kid, I would also say both cats are just more intentful about like, Hey, look at me.
[00:31:52] Hey, Hey, Hey.
[00:31:54] Uh, I will say it is funny how the way they interact with Winnie has not changed, which is like, they treat her like she's a queen.
[00:32:00] Like they approach her like daintily and carefully and like they will bow.
[00:32:05] So they get their pets and then they will like turn around and just be like, Hey bitch.
[00:32:11] Uh, to me.
[00:32:12] Uh, which is fun.
[00:32:13] Speaking of a cat, honorary cat, Ivan, I heard, uh, walked on two feet.
[00:32:19] Is this true?
[00:32:20] This is true.
[00:32:21] He is walking.
[00:32:24] He is walking.
[00:32:24] Not only is he walking, uh, for a period when he first started walking, he was still crawling faster.
[00:32:29] So he would like walk for a few steps and be like, I need to go into all terrain mode because that is actually faster.
[00:32:35] Yes.
[00:32:36] Uh, now it's, I'd say about the same.
[00:32:39] So if he's walking, he stays walking.
[00:32:40] He's fast as fuck.
[00:32:42] Uh, literally the first time I saw him walk, uh, I brought him home from daycare.
[00:32:50] Uh, they were just like, you should see if he walks when he gets home.
[00:32:53] He, I think he's about to.
[00:32:55] And I got him in the door and I said, Hey dude, do you want to walk?
[00:32:58] And he just did.
[00:32:59] He's just, he's just like walked forward.
[00:33:02] Uh, and now like a little bit, he just like went into the den.
[00:33:05] Wow.
[00:33:06] What a guy.
[00:33:07] Someone in the discord was just like, it's kind of a weird place to ask, but like, is there any like dad stuff?
[00:33:13] Could there be like a dad talk segment?
[00:33:15] Any tips?
[00:33:16] Uh, so my first tip is you should absolutely marry a doctor for sure.
[00:33:22] Like absolutely do that.
[00:33:23] Uh, that's a huge, good opening move.
[00:33:27] Uh, everything we've been so focused on like schedule, uh, with Ivan from the jump, by which I mean, like we are just always stayed on top of wake windows, what to expect and when, when he'd be getting up, which sounds kind of obvious, but it really made a big difference.
[00:33:43] When daycare started happening and you can just line exactly what he's doing up at daycare with at home.
[00:33:49] It makes you feel like a genius because it's just like, Oh, here's all that structure.
[00:33:54] That's always happening.
[00:33:55] That's getting built into every aspect of his life.
[00:33:57] Yeah.
[00:33:58] It feels like he's, he allows him to feel secure and confident about how shit will go and thus rendering any potential mental illness completely gone.
[00:34:09] Hoof a perfect brain.
[00:34:11] Oh, this isn't really a tip.
[00:34:12] Just a warning.
[00:34:13] I think the, like having to suck a booger out of a kid's nose using the booger sucker, Ivan screams like he's being killed 80 ways.
[00:34:22] Uh, if you can figure out a way to make that less annoying, uh, that would be really good.
[00:34:26] That's my tip to you.
[00:34:28] Like I have to leave the house sometimes.
[00:34:30] Like, it's just like, you're getting my brain.
[00:34:33] Uh, I have no kid.
[00:34:36] I've not done this.
[00:34:37] I've just heard this from my siblings and parents that, uh, and you're going to say you and that's valid.
[00:34:45] But, uh, I've heard that the solution to that is say, fuck it to the booger sucker and just place your human mouth over the baby's nose and go and, uh, Hawk to us.
[00:34:58] Spit that shit out.
[00:34:59] Uh, if I did that, I would, uh, promptly just put my son on the curb for the garbage man to pick him up.
[00:35:06] That kid is done.
[00:35:07] That kid is all done.
[00:35:10] Fair enough.
[00:35:10] I, you did, you told me, uh, a story of an incredible parenting experience you had, uh, which I have to imagine made you feel like one of the great genius kings of earth.
[00:35:26] Uh, which is you took Ivan for his first haircut and it was to kid snips, which I remember I got my haircut at kid snips once when I was a kid.
[00:35:35] And I never went back and I wondered why does my mommy never take me to kid snips again?
[00:35:42] And then when you describe sensory nightmare.
[00:35:44] Yeah.
[00:35:45] It's like, oh, I get it.
[00:35:46] Winnie and I both were like, oh, he needs his first haircut.
[00:35:48] We should take him to kid snips with the, I don't know why we thought this, but like, we thought it would be like, this kid, he's a kid.
[00:35:54] Yeah.
[00:35:54] We thought it would be like sensory accommodating in the sense that like it would be chill.
[00:35:58] It is so, it's just a toy store where there's like barber chairs thrown in the aisle.
[00:36:03] Also there's yelling kids and there's way too many people in the, it's a fire hazard.
[00:36:08] Yes.
[00:36:08] Anyway, uh, as he's getting in his little like airplane shaped barber chair, uh, the lady was like, uh, does he want to watch the tablet?
[00:36:17] And I was like, yeah, sure.
[00:36:18] Just like, yeah, distract him.
[00:36:20] Cause it's a nightmare.
[00:36:21] And she was like, what do you, what does he like to watch?
[00:36:23] And this was like an honest answer.
[00:36:25] And I like, but also like, I wasn't trying to be like, I'm the ultimate dad, but I was like, he's never watched like a tablet.
[00:36:33] Before anything's fine.
[00:36:35] Like just never seen an iPad in his life.
[00:36:37] He hasn't be like, and to be clear, my perspective is that he's going to spend his whole fucking life looking at iPads and iPads equivalents.
[00:36:47] Uh, there's, there's no rush to jam a ton of that at the front end.
[00:36:52] I'm not even saying like no screens.
[00:36:54] I'm just like, just chill out of the gate.
[00:36:56] I know Joe that as a parent who understands the difficulties and the, the, the, the struggles and the burdens of, of this incredible sacred even past.
[00:37:06] I know that you're being very, uh, generous that what you're doing isn't like necessarily moral or better.
[00:37:14] It's just how it is shaken out.
[00:37:16] However, as an outsider whose opinion is based purely on conjecture and vibes, I will go out on a limb and say that what you've done is extremely moral.
[00:37:27] And then anyone who does otherwise is, uh, sinning and planting seeds of mental illness into their children that will bloom into flowers that can never be uprooted.
[00:37:36] Yeah, it's hard.
[00:37:37] It's just like screen time is everywhere.
[00:37:38] Uh, also every child understands that even if they're being told screen time is bad, every adult has a special distraction device in their pocket that they have to look at all the time for work or other reasons.
[00:37:51] So it's, I hate having to play hide the phone with him.
[00:37:55] It's like, I'm not like on the phone in front of him, but like, Oh, if I get a text or something and I check and he's, he's, he's aware of it.
[00:38:01] He knows that there's like this thing that will always kind of be distracting.
[00:38:05] If it's out, he's got the inborn human child instinct.
[00:38:10] Have you got any games on there?
[00:38:11] Yeah, exactly.
[00:38:12] Uh, and I, yeah, it, it's, there's just going to be lots of screen time like anyway.
[00:38:19] Uh, so it's not like I'm saying, yeah, you will never look at a screen.
[00:38:24] It's, uh, cutiform tablets or bust.
[00:38:28] Like it's, it's, it's, it's, here's the thing we did do.
[00:38:32] Like our parent, we're doing, we're focusing on this because someone asked, can you talk about parenting and fatherhood specifically?
[00:38:39] And so we were like, yeah, that's, that's probably smart.
[00:38:42] We can do that.
[00:38:43] But we did do a parenting episode and the people who wanted it to be real were really disappointed that it was all about how you should make your kid play Mario's.
[00:38:52] And I do believe that though.
[00:38:54] Yes.
[00:38:54] That's not, I want to, I want to tell you that touch screen is evil for many reasons.
[00:38:59] It robs your child of dexterity.
[00:39:02] Tom continue.
[00:39:02] Not only that, my niece, not Isa, uh, but one of my other nieces when she, she got a phone at the appropriate age, I think.
[00:39:11] So like preteen, like 12, 13, that's that, I think that's okay.
[00:39:17] The first thing she did was download a game where you hatch baby dragons that, uh, required you to watch a series of ads every time you wanted your dragon to hatch faster and made the phone extremely hot.
[00:39:31] And when my brother found out, he was like, oh my God, delete my game.
[00:39:36] Um, it was really mining Bitcoin too.
[00:39:39] A hundred percent.
[00:39:40] So here's the thing.
[00:39:41] This, this is a problem with the iPad thing.
[00:39:44] In addition to just, you know, like, oh, your kid's going to watch Cocoa Melon brain rot shit.
[00:39:49] That's going to render them illiterate.
[00:39:50] That's true.
[00:39:51] But that screen time robs the child of real screen time, which is to say Mario, because like when kids don't play Mario, they don't understand what a game, like what a fun game could be.
[00:40:07] Like what it means to be a fun video game.
[00:40:09] They think like a fun video game is where you hatch has ads in every 30 seconds.
[00:40:13] It's fine that it's like that.
[00:40:15] Uh, my niece is now in college.
[00:40:18] Uh, my, my oldest niece, but she was like the first generation of like iPad touchscreen type kids.
[00:40:27] So my example that I always like to point to is like, I think she was like maybe like seven or eight and it was like Christmas.
[00:40:33] And she was like, I want to play one of your old games.
[00:40:36] So I put on super Mario all stars, just like the first Mario on the super Nintendo.
[00:40:41] And like, I, I like had to watch her in, in just tedious, painful slow motion.
[00:40:48] Watch her just get destroyed and fuck up on the first Goomba.
[00:40:53] Yeah.
[00:40:54] And it's, it's just like, obviously I'm not your dad, I'm your uncle, but if I was your dad and I saw that I would be inconsolable.
[00:41:05] Grounded.
[00:41:06] You are not seeing your friends.
[00:41:08] No internet until you need to get in the lab.
[00:41:12] Yeah.
[00:41:12] Like you need to get to the warp room in one.
[00:41:17] Now, yeah, it's going to sound really draconian, but once you get there, once you pull it off, you'll know that I'm not asking much.
[00:41:27] That's so, it's like that, that's the like level one, one Mario brothers is like every shitty amateur YouTube video essayist is like, wow.
[00:41:36] Wow.
[00:41:36] The genius of one, one.
[00:41:38] Did you know that this level, every single part of it is designed to implicitly tutorialize you so that you learn without having to read a bunch of awkward tool tips.
[00:41:48] For example, the first Goomba, you can't possibly get past it unless you learn how to jump and it will only take you one life to realize I better jump over that.
[00:41:58] No, it took more than, it took more than one.
[00:42:03] It took more than one.
[00:42:05] The kids, you need, you need to play your Mario's from the very early age.
[00:42:11] It's just like, she's like, oh, oh, I'm so close.
[00:42:14] And I was like, I love you so much, but you need to understand no one in the entire world has ever died on this Goomba before.
[00:42:20] Like right now, there is a light at Nintendo that's going off.
[00:42:24] People make fun of like, why is it that in the new Mario games, if you die twice, like a guy on a star shows up like in a panic, be like, oh my God.
[00:42:35] Oh shit.
[00:42:36] Can I enable bitch mode for you?
[00:42:38] Can I just like fly you past all this?
[00:42:40] Like are we done?
[00:42:41] Can we not have this go on any longer?
[00:42:43] And it's like, how, why do they do that?
[00:42:44] They've seen the tests.
[00:42:46] They know what the kids are like now.
[00:42:48] But yes, I actually, my plan gaming wise for him is I purchased a new Chinese Game Boy for myself.
[00:42:58] Honestly, because someone in the discord recommended it and it was a Ambernick RGB cube, which has the square screen, which is like obviously what I want because that's more for like the Super Nintendo era type shit.
[00:43:11] Yeah.
[00:43:11] Um, it's a very nice device.
[00:43:14] Uh, so then my plan is to give the old wood paneled Ambernick to the boy when it's time.
[00:43:20] And I'm going to have a very curated, honestly, I'm going to have like a tech tree.
[00:43:25] I'm going to have like different versions of the SD card.
[00:43:28] It's like level zero.
[00:43:30] Here's Mario.
[00:43:31] And then like when he's ready for the next thing, I would rewrite the SD card with like the next stage of gaming talent tree.
[00:43:41] Mm hmm.
[00:43:42] Mm hmm.
[00:43:43] You got to get a romhack of Sonic the Hedgehog where it's exactly the same game.
[00:43:47] But at the beginning on the title screen, there's just like a big flashing text panel that says like, don't imprint on this character.
[00:43:56] He's not that cool.
[00:44:00] Oh, the it's too late.
[00:44:02] I think that we are too late on that front for many people.
[00:44:07] Yeah.
[00:44:07] Well, that's why for Ivan, we got to save him so that he doesn't like make a YouTube video essay when he's 15 called like the darkness of shadow, the hedgehog.
[00:44:17] He does kill a kid at the end of one of the games.
[00:44:20] I like it.
[00:44:21] Like he I don't know if it's a kid, but I know there is a murder with a gun.
[00:44:28] Uh, fine.
[00:44:29] The other thing about a kid and Sonic and I think the Sonic like character designers really like got this correct.
[00:44:36] Like once you get shoes for a kid, like they're starting to walk.
[00:44:39] They're just a Sonic character now because the shoes are a little too big.
[00:44:42] They're very stylish.
[00:44:44] Their head is bigger than their body.
[00:44:47] Absolutely.
[00:44:48] Uh, they're not quite Mega Man boots bad, but like you're like they are clearly like this is the main part of their outfit.
[00:44:56] Remember when there was that like high fashion pair of Mega Man boots that was popular?
[00:45:01] Like some some like big ass Italiano brand was like, uh, Sacre bleu.
[00:45:08] What?
[00:45:08] French?
[00:45:09] Sacre bleu.
[00:45:11] Our new boots.
[00:45:13] Hey, our new boots.
[00:45:14] I believe.
[00:45:15] And then I got a Mega Man.
[00:45:17] Oh, the Montemane.
[00:45:19] Uh, that was going to be a sneaker.
[00:45:21] No, that was good.
[00:45:22] Do you also remember the short lived?
[00:45:25] I believe either Nike or Reebok for lack of a better phrase.
[00:45:29] They were a slave shackle shoes.
[00:45:33] No time in Joe found it and sent me a picture.
[00:45:36] Let me describe.
[00:45:37] They look like normal shoes, except they have little fucking like orange looking like fucking Velcro slave shackles that are those are to the shoes.
[00:45:52] Yes, they there is a chain effect like that.
[00:45:57] That is what is happening.
[00:45:58] Anyway, Adidas canceled it.
[00:46:00] Uh, they were the name was the the JS roundhouse mids.
[00:46:07] They look mid as hell.
[00:46:09] I'll tell you because because they don't look good.
[00:46:12] Wow.
[00:46:12] Yeah, like, yeah.
[00:46:14] Wow.
[00:46:15] Huh?
[00:46:16] Well, I still think that Mega Man boots are better than that.
[00:46:19] Whoa.
[00:46:20] God.
[00:46:21] Wow.
[00:46:21] That just changed the sort of whole feel of the session.
[00:46:25] I was going to say something, but forgot what it was.
[00:46:28] Oh, I remembered.
[00:46:30] So Joe, this is, you know, I have no child.
[00:46:32] But I think I sometimes I think to myself, what if things were different?
[00:46:35] What would I do?
[00:46:37] And obviously we've discussed the gaming thing.
[00:46:39] But I think for me, a big benefit of a child is because they're essentially your prisoner for a lot of years.
[00:46:46] Forcing them to listen to my music.
[00:46:50] Now, your music is low five beats.
[00:46:52] So you do that and it's like frictionless.
[00:46:54] But like, yeah, do you ever have that urge to be like, Ivan, what do you know about ghosts with bones?
[00:47:02] Ghost, that's a really good song.
[00:47:06] It's been mostly Kroner Trigger soundtrack.
[00:47:08] I've been leading with video game stuff.
[00:47:10] You can put on any underwater Donkey Kong music and it's like your kid is now completely at peace.
[00:47:17] They are of empty mind.
[00:47:18] So you made a wise move with the David Wise Productions.
[00:47:22] Uh, that's so smart, dude.
[00:47:25] Kroner Trigger music is so goddamn good.
[00:47:28] I have the Kroner Trigger piano scorebook.
[00:47:32] And I was really disappointed when I got it because it is all simplified arrangements that are not the actual song.
[00:47:40] They don't sound like the actual song.
[00:47:41] They sound like a simplified version, which is disappointing.
[00:47:44] But like, it's been actually it's kind of a blessing to this guy because like the one of the things you got to do to get good at piano is just like open a fucking book to some shit you've never seen before and start playing it like now, now, now, now, now.
[00:47:56] Just like go, go, go now.
[00:47:57] Play it now.
[00:47:58] And that is like a tough thing to do because it sucks ass and it's hard and you fuck up a lot.
[00:48:02] But like the point is like when you fuck up, you can't like stop and repeat.
[00:48:06] And it's like, no, keep going.
[00:48:07] Go, go, go play the song.
[00:48:08] But you know what makes it not suck is when you're playing wind scene.
[00:48:13] When you do make the right decision, you hit the right note and wind scene comes out.
[00:48:17] It's like, OK, that wasn't that bad.
[00:48:19] I like that.
[00:48:20] Anyway, I think we're we're out of we're out of bad talk topics.
[00:48:25] That's it.
[00:48:25] Ivan's doing great is the main point.
[00:48:28] Yeah, he's his power level is insane.
[00:48:31] I mean, he knows all the katas.
[00:48:32] It's crazy.
[00:48:33] I loved your post.
[00:48:34] And he's like he was my my boy was chuckling himself thinking about how he's leveled up his spearmanship tactics.
[00:48:41] And someone was like, oh, you're going to get him a new spear.
[00:48:43] And you're like, actually, that's why he was chuckling.
[00:48:45] He realizes that he needs no spear.
[00:48:47] Yeah, he must forge the spear out of his own hand.
[00:48:50] You cannot be disarmed.
[00:48:52] If your arm is the weapon, I guess you get cut off.
[00:48:55] But then your toes are probably like weapons, too.
[00:48:57] I mean, if we're going to go down the road of like getting your arms cut off.
[00:49:02] If there's no fighting style for which getting your arm cut off is like great.
[00:49:08] I'm going to be the first guy to make it.
[00:49:11] It's it's going to be like based on how a lizard detaches its tail when in danger.
[00:49:25] So Tom has his record club, which we love.
[00:49:28] I was kicking around.
[00:49:30] Sort of like a another thing to kind of spin up just like a Joe vector of something.
[00:49:36] And it's sort of a preliminary test.
[00:49:39] I was like, what if we had like a ten dollar roguelike club where like the premises I just find a fucking ten dollar roguelike.
[00:49:44] We run it into the ground and then we free ourselves from this sin and never want to do it again and move on.
[00:49:51] So I just I bought a ten dollar roguelike for myself.
[00:49:54] I bought a game called Ballionaire.
[00:49:58] What's wonderful about Ballionaire is that after buying it, two people on my list already started playing it.
[00:50:05] And I just I mean, there's no way of knowing, but I fucking know, man.
[00:50:08] It was me.
[00:50:09] It was me.
[00:50:11] So Ballionaire is not unlike the game Pangolin, which is the Pachinko roguelike.
[00:50:19] How Pangolin works is that you are upgrading the pegs that the Pachinko thing hits.
[00:50:25] And how it works is as you hit the fucking pegs, you will generate, you know, like damage.
[00:50:32] You will do to enemies at the top of the screen or generate block like in Slay the Spire.
[00:50:37] So you don't get hit by the enemies on top of the screen.
[00:50:39] But the drafting is the actual Pachinko balls.
[00:50:44] So it's like the pegs or whatever.
[00:50:46] And then you drop different types of balls that have different effects, whatever.
[00:50:50] What Ballionaire is, is you are drafting the pegs instead of the balls.
[00:50:59] And although you can modify the balls in Peglin, this is way different.
[00:51:03] So the end result, I'm just top big picture here.
[00:51:07] This is a dopamine machine that's made for freaks.
[00:51:10] It's fucked up that they made this.
[00:51:13] It's insane.
[00:51:15] Everything about like that five star chest from Vampire Survivors.
[00:51:18] Like, what if that was everything?
[00:51:20] So I was telling Joe that I saw a video of some Ballionaire gameplay posted on my timeline.
[00:51:30] And I said to Joe, here's how I described it.
[00:51:32] I'm like, Joe, what they was is it was a Ballionaire board.
[00:51:36] And they pressed the button to make one ball fall down from the top into, you know,
[00:51:41] into the spread of bumpers and pegs that they had built.
[00:51:44] I couldn't follow what was happening next.
[00:51:46] But I do know that the video was five minutes long.
[00:51:50] So that's really good, especially if you got the stopwatch peg, which generates money the
[00:51:57] second the ball is dropped, which is collected upon being struck.
[00:52:01] So Ballionaire has like the same sort of thing as luck be a landlord where you're trying to
[00:52:06] get enough money at certain milestones.
[00:52:08] Instead of it being a landlord, it's like these weird sort of Aztec like deities.
[00:52:15] It's very fun.
[00:52:16] The art style is very funny.
[00:52:17] I told Tom is like some of these little freaky creatures have Casey Green vibes.
[00:52:24] I very much like them.
[00:52:25] They look like Greechers.
[00:52:27] Not as good as a real Greecher, but like, yeah.
[00:52:30] Yeah.
[00:52:31] They should actually get him to redo the art and make it better.
[00:52:34] Yeah.
[00:52:35] So the art is fun.
[00:52:37] Okay.
[00:52:38] So like just for instance, like what is we talking synergies?
[00:52:40] We're talking roguelikes.
[00:52:41] Like what's a synergy?
[00:52:43] Okay.
[00:52:44] So like a basic example of like a thing you would fucking make is like, okay, you have a
[00:52:51] pachinko game.
[00:52:52] You drop it.
[00:52:53] You drop your ball.
[00:52:54] You get things.
[00:52:54] You can put down a coin block.
[00:52:57] A coin block gets you $200 when it's struck from the top.
[00:53:00] But Mario rules are such that when you strike it from below, it generates a coin ball.
[00:53:05] What is a coin ball?
[00:53:06] A coin ball operates as any other ball, but is also a coin, which means if it goes into
[00:53:09] something like a piggy bank, it will generate passive interest.
[00:53:12] It also means that it can be cut in half by an axe, allowing you to then have two coin
[00:53:16] balls.
[00:53:17] Additionally, every ball can carry things.
[00:53:19] They are called carryables, which means that you can take toast to a toaster and shit like
[00:53:24] that.
[00:53:24] Do you understand the amount of just fucking jingle jangle that is put in front of you?
[00:53:30] I was saying that this should, I mean, like the core sort of, you know, actual like thought
[00:53:36] process and decision making is again, building a build like any of these, but like they need
[00:53:41] to do that, but have the act to have like the thing be like just key jingling.
[00:53:45] Like every time you click instead of a ball falling into a pachinko board, you just jingle
[00:53:49] the keys.
[00:53:50] You draft one of these three keys to add to your ring for further jingling.
[00:53:54] Yes.
[00:53:55] Yes.
[00:53:55] Yes.
[00:53:55] Yes.
[00:53:56] And there's like, uh, oh my God, there's like a flint key and you're like, what is the point
[00:54:00] of the flint key?
[00:54:01] But then you see like the firecracker key and it's like, if the flint key hits a firecracker
[00:54:05] key, the firecracker goes off.
[00:54:06] Boom, boom, boom.
[00:54:07] Beautiful.
[00:54:08] I'm glad you said that because you better believe there are fireballs that can be generated,
[00:54:11] which, uh, will, uh, when striking fireworks or campfires or other things do crazy shit.
[00:54:17] And the, so that's sort of like the, the nonsense, uh, that is happening.
[00:54:26] Additionally, you will get, uh, I don't know what they're called, but they're basically like
[00:54:30] relics from Slay the Spire, which like permanently like just change.
[00:54:35] Yeah.
[00:54:36] Behavior of things.
[00:54:37] Yeah.
[00:54:37] This is always true regardless of what the ball hits.
[00:54:40] Yes.
[00:54:41] Uh, like one that doesn't seem like amazing, uh, at first glance.
[00:54:46] And then you're like, oh baby, now we're cooking.
[00:54:48] I see God.
[00:54:49] He wants me to be happy.
[00:54:51] Uh, is like, there's one, it's like when a ball gets to the bottom and dies, it just
[00:54:58] changes direction and flies up.
[00:55:01] And it's just like, yes, it would hit more stuff on the way up.
[00:55:04] But like, like that's not insane.
[00:55:07] Like that's just like, no, no, no.
[00:55:09] Don't hear me out.
[00:55:10] Hear me out.
[00:55:11] It becomes insane when the reverse gravity ball is stuck underneath two coin blocks, generating
[00:55:21] coin blocks on every bump.
[00:55:23] Oh my God.
[00:55:25] Oh my God.
[00:55:26] Do you understand me?
[00:55:27] That's how we get when the coin falls, when they get to the bottom, they also go up.
[00:55:34] Yes.
[00:55:34] So, which is why you can then put the piggy bank near the top of the board and it's not
[00:55:41] really poor placement because it's actually kind of catching a lot of things.
[00:55:46] Uh, and for instance, like you pick decks or packs, like the, the, the base deck and pack
[00:55:53] that I've played with is just about like, like this is going to get you playing with
[00:55:58] this type of synergy.
[00:55:59] And this, the basic pack is about bouncing and keeping the ball in play for as ridiculously
[00:56:05] as long as possible while like, uh, also using vehicles.
[00:56:10] Like your ball can get in a car and shit to extend that.
[00:56:14] Right.
[00:56:15] Okay.
[00:56:16] Uh, you better believe that there's like farming and shit.
[00:56:18] That you can grow plants.
[00:56:20] Uh, how the trees work.
[00:56:22] Oh, there's time of crops.
[00:56:23] How the trees work is every turn they age and they're worth more.
[00:56:26] And then if you hit a tree from underneath, it gives you a shit ton of points based on
[00:56:30] a multiplier based on its age.
[00:56:32] So that obviously feels very good.
[00:56:34] Uh, uh, and, and the thing that I am finding that really shouldn't be as much of a, a, a
[00:56:41] wow, what a wonderful choice as it is.
[00:56:44] Uh, you know, your peggles, your peglins.
[00:56:48] Uh, they're games where you shoot the trajectory.
[00:56:52] You have the little dotted line and you're like, I think it's going to go this way.
[00:56:55] Like you have your plan, right?
[00:56:57] Dude, there's none of that.
[00:56:58] You just drop the ball.
[00:56:59] It goes straight fucking down.
[00:57:01] It's so much better because you are taking the human error out of it.
[00:57:06] Yeah.
[00:57:06] Yes.
[00:57:06] Yes.
[00:57:07] If the ball doesn't go in the right place, you can't be like, if only I had done something
[00:57:10] different.
[00:57:11] You'd just be like, should be like that.
[00:57:13] Oopsie.
[00:57:13] My bad.
[00:57:14] And you know why I know this game is for freaks, like actual freaks.
[00:57:18] It's called ballionaire.
[00:57:20] True.
[00:57:22] When actually when a game ends, I think winner lose, but I've, I've really only done it
[00:57:27] when I've lost one of the options.
[00:57:29] When you lose is to take this board to the lab immediately.
[00:57:35] What?
[00:57:36] Yes.
[00:57:37] What does that mean?
[00:57:38] Tell me what you're, what are you talking about?
[00:57:40] By which I mean you start fucking with it.
[00:57:42] You're like, okay, what could I have done here?
[00:57:44] Like what could have turned this around?
[00:57:46] You get to be like, all right, I, maybe I fucked this up.
[00:57:49] Let's mess this around and see if like, I had a perfect machine that was just overcomplicated.
[00:57:54] Talking about like specifically, like abstractly, I understand that it is a mode that allows
[00:57:59] you to do that.
[00:57:59] But like, what rules do you have to, to think about these hypotheticals?
[00:58:03] Like, does it just let you do more?
[00:58:05] It's a sandbox.
[00:58:06] It's a sandbox.
[00:58:07] So imagine you just got a bunch of contextual information, weird use cases for all this shit
[00:58:11] in your game.
[00:58:12] And now rather than just like, uh, starting a new Slay the Spire game immediately, you
[00:58:16] get to kind of goof around with maybe some of your edge cases a little bit longer.
[00:58:22] And that's just like really fucking smart.
[00:58:24] Slay the Spire 2.
[00:58:25] Hey, hey, fucking megacrit.
[00:58:27] Put in sandbox mode where you can just pick an encounter out of the list with the deck you
[00:58:32] have and like run it again.
[00:58:34] And then allow yourself, allow the player to like edit the deck, maybe put a different
[00:58:40] potion in there.
[00:58:41] Or this is insane.
[00:58:43] Like this would like, what?
[00:58:44] This is for freaks.
[00:58:46] This is how you get good.
[00:58:48] Yeah.
[00:58:48] It's an absolute wow game feature.
[00:58:51] I'm just a gog at how good of an idea it is.
[00:58:54] It's one of those things that, uh, now that I am aware of it, I can't help but wonder why
[00:59:01] the fuck wasn't it invented a hundred years ago?
[00:59:05] I'm going nuts about this with Slay the Spire because like there are times I'm, I'm like
[00:59:09] play on essential 20, but I'm not good.
[00:59:12] I wish I mean like I almost always lose.
[00:59:14] And when I lose like half the time, I know like, yeah, I did.
[00:59:18] I know what I did wrong.
[00:59:19] But other times, like when I get to like the boss, like the act three boss and I just
[00:59:23] lose to the first of the two act three bosses.
[00:59:25] I'm just like shit.
[00:59:27] Like, well, what can I, like what, what, what was wrong?
[00:59:29] Like, what could I have done different?
[00:59:31] Cause like, I felt like I got to the act three boss pretty easily.
[00:59:33] I felt like I was cruising and it's not like I was like a hard, it's not like I was fucking
[00:59:38] going against time eater with a shiv deck where like the boss hard counters my deck.
[00:59:43] I just like took too much damage and died.
[00:59:46] It's like, what could I have fucking done differently?
[00:59:47] It's like, and when I get to that point, it's like, it feels so annoying.
[00:59:50] Cause like, I don't know how to, how to like do that final push to win.
[00:59:55] So like, it feels like the only time I ever win is when I walk out on like a really high
[00:59:58] roll set of like stuff.
[01:00:01] And not that these are similar games in terms of just like required dexterity to response
[01:00:06] time, but that's absolutely why I always bounce off risk of rank two.
[01:00:10] It's cause I fucking die and I have like no idea.
[01:00:13] It's just like, I was chugging along and now I was a corpse.
[01:00:17] Yeah.
[01:00:18] Uh, I think I had that.
[01:00:20] Balliner, Balliner, Balliner, Balliner.
[01:00:23] That's also like, it has that sort of thing that Bellatro does where it plays with the sort
[01:00:33] of, uh, satanic omnipresent urge to be enticed by gambling, but it, and making it just for
[01:00:43] gamer nerds.
[01:00:45] Yeah.
[01:00:45] Make it just for gamers.
[01:00:46] No money involved.
[01:00:47] No others involved.
[01:00:48] I think that that's, that's one of the most moral things that can be done.
[01:00:52] Speaking of Ballatro, real quick, uh, congrats to guesto Remy Su, creative director of the
[01:00:59] incredible game, one of the games of 2024, thousand times resist for getting thousand times
[01:01:04] resist Ballatro cards in Ballatro.
[01:01:07] Uh, I congratulated him on it.
[01:01:10] And said that now all he needs to do is get Slay the Spire to replace the character Watcher with
[01:01:15] Watcher from thousand times resist.
[01:01:17] And he said that he had actually met them recently.
[01:01:19] The Slay the Spire guys.
[01:01:21] And I said, the iron is hot.
[01:01:23] Do it, do it, do it.
[01:01:24] I said, if I was in that situation, I would be more starstruck than if I met any living actor
[01:01:30] or musicians.
[01:01:31] I would just be like, dude, do you guys like it when cards cost zero?
[01:01:36] When, when a card, when you upgrade it and it stays the same, it does the same thing,
[01:01:40] but it costs zero now.
[01:01:42] Isn't that cool?
[01:01:44] I'm glad.
[01:01:45] Isn't a zero cost body slam basically sexual satisfaction?
[01:01:52] Are you, uh, yeah.
[01:01:55] Oh, and, uh, this might be a criticism of Ball in here.
[01:01:58] I don't know.
[01:01:59] Uh, do people expect everything to be unlocked at the start?
[01:02:02] We know that's like not how anything ever works, but there is an unlock system.
[01:02:06] There's like a vending machine.
[01:02:07] You play in between games, a little capsule comes out and then you pick
[01:02:12] one of the three things to add to like future games.
[01:02:16] There's currently 70 things to unlock, which is quite a bit.
[01:02:19] Uh, I don't know.
[01:02:20] I, the discourse on whether or not unlocking stuff is tedious or not really depends on the
[01:02:25] game for me.
[01:02:26] Uh, I have no issue with how it is currently implemented in Ball in here.
[01:02:31] Also the art for the vending machine in the hand is like kind of janky and gross in a very
[01:02:36] endearing way.
[01:02:37] I love that.
[01:02:38] My take on that shit is the people who are like,
[01:02:41] no unlocks and roguelikes are coming at it from a viewpoint of someone who like wants
[01:02:47] to like dig in to the builds and like really think about them as hard as they can with all
[01:02:53] the information on the table at once.
[01:02:56] Like for example, if I was to have to make a new Slay the Spire file where things aren't
[01:03:00] unlocked, I would be so fucking pissed that they were just cards that I could never get
[01:03:04] because they're not unlocked yet.
[01:03:06] And that would like all those runs where I'm like, why do I, why am I never fucking
[01:03:11] seeing Reaper?
[01:03:12] And like, cause Reaper is not, I don't even know if Reaper isn't unlockable because it's
[01:03:15] been that long since I had to unlock shit.
[01:03:17] That would be annoying.
[01:03:18] But especially like I was just watching you play Ball in here because you're like, Tom,
[01:03:23] look at this, look at this game.
[01:03:24] And when the time came to draft a bumper, there was just too many, I couldn't understand what
[01:03:31] was being said because there's so many words.
[01:03:33] There's so many keywords like Carriable, Spawners, but there's like a lot.
[01:03:38] Like it, it makes sense if you see them, if you have these keywords like drip fed to you
[01:03:43] and yeah, just like asking a new player to try to actually make informed decisions when
[01:03:50] like everything's on the table, that's a fucking possible.
[01:03:54] You can't do that.
[01:03:55] Especially also for every freak that's playing your game, there's going to be 10 normies
[01:04:00] who don't have this, this urge to think about builds like we do.
[01:04:04] You should though.
[01:04:05] Like people should.
[01:04:06] The freaks are the good people.
[01:04:08] Yeah, it was, I think it's actually more than $10, but it was on sale.
[01:04:13] So for the purposes of this, uh, this, this idea in limbo, it might not count, but I guess
[01:04:20] that would be the, frankly, the point of the fucking little, uh, project, right?
[01:04:24] It would just be wait for the stupid sales, which are always happening to push some tasty
[01:04:29] shit underneath $10.
[01:04:31] Joe, I gotta say having experienced a round and a half of, uh, records club.
[01:04:38] Second round.
[01:04:39] We're listening to, uh, by enemy airship, the landlord is dead by do make say think good
[01:04:44] album.
[01:04:45] You'll hear my full thoughts this Friday.
[01:04:47] Having done a round and a half.
[01:04:48] It's so fucking fun.
[01:04:50] Even if it, even if it splutters out after like two more weeks, it'll still have been
[01:04:54] worth it.
[01:04:55] I say, uh, no longer keep this idea in limbo and make this idea for real, because I guarantee
[01:05:00] that when the fucking freaks hear this shit and they hear you propose this, they're going
[01:05:04] to hoot and holler and wag their tongues.
[01:05:06] I, the, the thing I just need to figure out is like, you have the essay, like you have
[01:05:10] the in-depth look at the, the, the album.
[01:05:14] I'm not looking at something that in depth, uh, maybe, but maybe I should just have like,
[01:05:20] dude, these, this is the fucking, my tongue started wagging when these two cards were on
[01:05:24] the screen and we just keep a list of those.
[01:05:27] Yeah.
[01:05:28] It could just be a fucking channel.
[01:05:29] It didn't have to have an extra part or you can just fucking turn your mic on and like yap
[01:05:35] about like, I, this was, I had, this is the most incredible thing.
[01:05:39] And like, just put that on Patreon.
[01:05:41] That is such an important type of communication.
[01:05:43] There was, there was one period where we were both playing slay the spire and we were,
[01:05:47] we kept doing this thing to each other, which is very important.
[01:05:51] Uh, which is just like, we had both just finished runs and it is now time for one person to explain
[01:05:57] what they had done in their run.
[01:05:59] And then the other person will do the other way.
[01:06:01] And it is such an important social feature.
[01:06:04] It's like when the chimps are like eating fleas off each other.
[01:06:07] Mm-hmm.
[01:06:07] Mm-hmm.
[01:06:08] Mm-hmm.
[01:06:08] Mm-hmm.
[01:06:09] There's also why Monster Train is a great roguelike deck builder, even though it's a little,
[01:06:14] uh, it's not as tuned as slay the spire is, but what is, uh, the thing about Monster Train,
[01:06:20] the reason that game exists was so you can send your homie a screenshot of one of your units
[01:06:27] that's doing like 10,000 damage times 5,000.
[01:06:31] Yeah.
[01:06:32] The number doesn't fit on the screen.
[01:06:33] Uh, you feel like you, you send a screenshot and the person, uh, unless they've played the
[01:06:39] game for a thousand hours should not be able to tell what's going on.
[01:06:42] Yes.
[01:06:43] Yes.
[01:06:43] That's when you see a number that is too big for the UI, it's just like, I'm like I
[01:06:49] ascended, I like I've left Samsara and become a type of God now.
[01:06:55] Anyway.
[01:06:56] Uh, I think that's all the time we have for anime.
[01:06:58] It's like, is that goes, do you have anything left?
[01:06:59] No.
[01:07:00] Uh, take a look at the Steam page for Ballionaire.
[01:07:03] You will find what I said to be true.
[01:07:07] Uh, it's hard to say whether or not it's a, like, I think it's a good game, but I'm also
[01:07:11] acknowledging the way that like a pile of cocaine is addictive.
[01:07:14] Like it's, yes, yes.
[01:07:17] If you, listener, think Joe's $10 roguelike club is a fun idea you want to join and you have
[01:07:22] ideas about what you think the best way to implement it would be.
[01:07:25] Fucking tell us.
[01:07:26] Uh, no guarantees they'll be put to practice, but probably make it more likely than not.
[01:07:32] It'll build Joe-mentum.
[01:07:33] Yeah.
[01:07:34] Life is about building Joe-mentum and then it become Ja-drax.
[01:07:38] I try to make Joe projects.
[01:07:39] I couldn't do it.
[01:07:40] Ja-drax.
[01:07:41] Ja-drax.
[01:07:41] No.
[01:07:42] Joe.
[01:07:42] Yeah.
[01:07:43] Yeah.
[01:07:44] Bye-bye.
[01:07:45] I've been Tom and Anime Sicko.
[01:07:47] I'm Joe and Anime Sicko.
[01:07:48] See you next time.
[01:07:49] Bye-bye.
[01:07:50] Thank you for listening to Anime Sickos.
[01:07:53] I've been Tom, a sicko.
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[01:07:57] Joe was also a sicko.
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